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This particular dumb theory can be easily disproved: if the US government really were involved in some dumb-ass scheme to kill Bin Laden in 2001 and then not bo
by hugh3 16y ago
This particular dumb theory can be easily disproved: if the US government really were involved in some dumb-ass scheme to kill Bin Laden in 2001 and then not bother to tell anyone about it for nearly ten years (even, say, circa 2004 when Mr Bush really would have liked to have that for his re-election campaign) then they'd also be supervillainish enough to kill this guy for talking about it.
Sometimes it's not good to dismiss "unpopular" ideas, but it usually is a good idea to (provisionally) dismiss dumbass ideas which don't appear to make sense and for which there isn't any damn evidence.
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- abbasmehdi 16y agoThink you missed my point my man, you are talking about analyzing and then dismissing the idea (totally agree and cool), I am speaking of people who dismiss prior to analysis just because the idea is unpopular and not a part of the mainstream ideology. Hope this makes sense.
- hugh3 16y agoWell for a start it's not about "ideology". Ideology is about the way the world should be, and it's a matter on which the reasonable people of the world can and should disagree. The date of bin Laden's death (if indeed he is dead, if indeed he ever existed) is a fact-of-the-matter thing; it's either one way or it's another way, and there shouldn't be much room for reasonable people to disagree at all. Reasonable people may be uncertain on such matters, but they should all share similar degrees of uncertainty.
- abbasmehdi 16y agoI am not sure why you insist on missing my point repeatedly when I have clearly stated right from that start that "I have not seen the said video and am not endorsing it". My point was about attitude not the video, again in even simpler language: Dismiss because everybody says so without giving any thought = Bad. Dismiss after thinking about it and looking into it = Good. Ironically, I should dismiss your response because you’re repeatedly beating the same dead horse. ;)
- hugh3 16y agoDismiss because everybody says so without giving any thought = Bad. Dismiss after thinking about it and looking into it = Good. So whom, exactly, are you accusing of dismissing it without giving it any thought?
- abbasmehdi 16y agoI am happy you finally get what I've been trying to say Mr.3. And no, I'm not getting into it again with you :-) (it's a public forum, look it up). It's not that serious anyway. Happy Cinco! :)
- espeed 16y agoInstead of dismissing one idea or the other, it would be more interesting to ask why someone with Pieczenik's credentials and connections would say that when he did.