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I absolutely bemoan the duplication between iMessage and FaceTime. Slack and Zoom are separate companies, different ballgame.

refulgentis 6y ago
I believe you're still able to draw a firm enough distinction between how Slack and iMessage are designed as to understand why they would be separate products. Is that accurate, or does iMessage feel like it could be merged into Slack at no loss to you?
- nikisweeting 6y ago
  I don't understand, why would iMessage and slack be merged? They're separate companies.
  - refulgentis 6y ago
    Yup! Are you _genuinely_ unable to answer a question about products unless all the products in question are owned by the same company? This thread feels pretty suspicious IMHO, I really, really doubt you're missing the point this widely due to irrelevant details.
    - nikisweeting 6y ago
      The thread is about duplication of products within a company's ecosystem, what I'm not understanding is why drawing a comparison between Slack and iMessage having some duplication is relevant. (also for the record I'm not downvoting you at all, HN likes to brigade when it comes to Apple/Google ecosystem stuff)
      - refulgentis 6y ago
        Interlocutory techniques like refusing to engage with the posts as written, and instead nitpicking, cause those outcomes. I highly, highly, highly doubt that you were so deeply confused by the Meet/Slack Allo/iMessage analogy that you needed me to spell out 'hypothetically, if Apple owned Slack, which of course it doesn't, would it be more usable for you to have Slack merged with iMessage?' Your complete lack of charity in interpretation forces lengthy, caveated, responses in drawn-out threads, emphasizing downvotes, and ensuring several opportunities for downvotes.
    - antonvs 6y ago
      You feel like the one missing the point here. The discussion is about a change within the Google product line, what do Slack and Zoom have to do with it? I get the impression you may be treating this as "what are the leading products in each niche for the overall ecosystem," but that doesn't really have anything to do with what's being discussed.
      - refulgentis 6y ago
        I see: I, at least, wouldn't clamor for the merger of an Apple-owned Slack and iMessage. The point being, people are conflating work messaging apps with personal messaging apps and acting like having unique versions of both is a problem. It's not.

refulgentis 6y ago

I believe you're still able to draw a firm enough distinction between how Slack and iMessage are designed as to understand why they would be separate products. Is that accurate, or does iMessage feel like it could be merged into Slack at no loss to you?

nikisweeting 6y ago
I don't understand, why would iMessage and slack be merged? They're separate companies.
- refulgentis 6y ago
  Yup! Are you _genuinely_ unable to answer a question about products unless all the products in question are owned by the same company? This thread feels pretty suspicious IMHO, I really, really doubt you're missing the point this widely due to irrelevant details.
  - nikisweeting 6y ago
    The thread is about duplication of products within a company's ecosystem, what I'm not understanding is why drawing a comparison between Slack and iMessage having some duplication is relevant. (also for the record I'm not downvoting you at all, HN likes to brigade when it comes to Apple/Google ecosystem stuff)
    - refulgentis 6y ago
      Interlocutory techniques like refusing to engage with the posts as written, and instead nitpicking, cause those outcomes. I highly, highly, highly doubt that you were so deeply confused by the Meet/Slack Allo/iMessage analogy that you needed me to spell out 'hypothetically, if Apple owned Slack, which of course it doesn't, would it be more usable for you to have Slack merged with iMessage?' Your complete lack of charity in interpretation forces lengthy, caveated, responses in drawn-out threads, emphasizing downvotes, and ensuring several opportunities for downvotes.
  - antonvs 6y ago
    You feel like the one missing the point here. The discussion is about a change within the Google product line, what do Slack and Zoom have to do with it? I get the impression you may be treating this as "what are the leading products in each niche for the overall ecosystem," but that doesn't really have anything to do with what's being discussed.
    - refulgentis 6y ago
      I see: I, at least, wouldn't clamor for the merger of an Apple-owned Slack and iMessage. The point being, people are conflating work messaging apps with personal messaging apps and acting like having unique versions of both is a problem. It's not.