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What about 35% of respondents in n=292 (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6930e1.htm?s_cid=mm6930e1_w https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6930e1.htm
by Mordisquitos 6y ago
What about 35% of respondents in n=292 (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6930e1.htm?s_cid=mm6930e1_w https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6930e1.htm?s_cid=mm...)?
"Interviews were conducted 14–21 days after the test date. [...] Among 292 respondents, 94% (274) reported experiencing one or more symptoms at the time of testing; 35% of these symptomatic respondents reported not having returned to their usual state of health by the date of the interview (median = 16 days from testing date), including 26% among those aged 18–34 years, 32% among those aged 35–49 years, and 47% among those aged ≥50 years. Among respondents reporting cough, fatigue, or shortness of breath at the time of testing, 43%, 35%, and 29%, respectively, continued to experience these symptoms at the time of the interview. These findings indicate that COVID-19 can result in prolonged illness even among persons with milder outpatient illness, including young adults."
- SpicyLemonZest 6y agoIs this a surprising statistic? Even with milder illnesses such as the flu, it's common to experience cough, fatigue, or shortness of breath for weeks.
- floatingatoll 6y agoIt’s not common for 35% of flu patients to experience those symptoms after 14-21 days have passed, as it is with Covid.
- SpicyLemonZest 6y agoIs it not? I'd be interested to see statistics on this, because I was coughing for weeks after 2 of the 3 times I can remember catching the flu.
- floatingatoll 6y agoFlu characteristics are well understood and you should encounter no obstacles in doing that research yourself.
- dahfizz 6y agoOkay: > Uncomplicated influenza signs and symptoms typically resolve after 3-7 days for the majority of people, although cough and malaise can persist for >2 weeks, especially in elderly people and those with chronic lung disease. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/acip/clinical.htm https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/acip/clinical.htm Seems like over 14 days of flu symptoms is common.
- floatingatoll 6y ago“can persist” is not specified with a percentage of flu patients, and thus cannot be inferred to be “common” as you state from the evidence provided alone. Precisely what overall percentage of flu patients across the general population experience continuing symptoms after 14-21 days? (Any common influenza in any typical year in the past decade is fine.)
- SpicyLemonZest 6y agoI'm not sure why you're assuming bad faith here. I attempted to and found no source indicating a proportion of flu cases with lingering symptoms, with most sources only giving vague statements that symptoms can persist. If you've done the research and found it easy, would you be interested to share the results?
- floatingatoll 6y agoYou indicated that a given data point would be interesting and relevant to the conversation, and then didn’t indicate that you had invested any time in researching that data point to contribute it to the conversation. It’s poor form to shrug off that effort into others when your participation in this specific discussion on HN suggests you are both familiar enough and capable enough to attempt to look it up yourself. That you attempted to do so and couldn’t find the answer would have been relevant to mention in your comment, and knowing that now, I’m happy to retract my reply. (However, regardless, I do not consider researching your line of reasoning to be a valuable use of the time I have available for this discussion, so I will not be doing so. It’s not personal at all, though I imagine that’s of no comfort. Perhaps someone else will do so; I see someone trying in another branch.)
- vonmoltke 6y agoTo be fair, GGP said six months (~180 days). That 35% is by 21 days, so not comparable at all. It is concerning, though, and I hope some of these observational studies are continuing to follow the people still experiencing symptoms for longer periods of time.