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It is not. No companies on HerJobs are hiring based on gender or country. Herjobs is just a means for companies to diversify their pipelines. Basically this hel

It is not. No companies on HerJobs are hiring based on gender or country. Herjobs is just a means for companies to diversify their pipelines. Basically this helps in getting more diverse applicants.

TheAdamAndChe 6y ago
If a company were to look for candidates on a site that only accepted rich white men, there would rightfully be outrage. Narrowing the hiring pool to a certain group based on race and sex _is_ discriminatory, and your website is facilitating such blatant discrimination. Edit: to expand on this, to discriminate is to discern a difference in something. You are explicitly discriminating based on gender and national origin. This part is inarguable. Whether it's right or not is another question.
- soorajchandran 6y ago
  Let me try to put it this way. If you let things run its own course with no external forces, this would lead to a team with people from similar backgrounds and from similar geographies. Because not all people has the same starting point, not all people have access to the education and privilege. But remote work can be most useful for people from emerging economies. It can bring them better salary, better living conditions and this has huge implications in long term. We are trying to do our part in accelerating that.
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yellowapple 6y ago
> No companies on HerJobs are hiring based on gender or country. If that's true, then why would these companies be on HerJobs (a platform which - as far as I can tell - seems to be designed specifically to facilitate hiring based on gender or country)? I definitely agree that we need more diversified pipelines, but I don't agree that creating a restricted pipeline is the way to go about it; this seems more likely to be used as a means to get token women of color on teams for diversity points than anything. It seems more patronizing than anything - like women from emerging countries are somehow fundamentally unable to stand out in existing pipelines and thus need their own pipeline. A less patronizing solution would be to figure out why women from emerging countries are underrepresented in existing pipelines and address those factors there. As it stands, I'm getting a strong "binders full of women" vibe from this, especially since I know full well that your average company will use it exactly in that way: to check off diversity boxes and make it look like they're "woke" as a substitute for actually-meaningful workplace gender/ethnic reform. I wish y'all the best of luck, because this is definitely a problem worth solving; I just don't feel like this is the right way to go about it, or at the very least that it needs some refinement and adjustment to avoid doing more harm than good.
- soorajchandran 6y ago
  > like women from emerging countries are somehow fundamentally unable to stand out in existing pipelines The fact is that there aren't many women from emerging economies in the pipeline of a typical remote company. This is what we are trying to change. These companies use social media, linkedin ads, other famous job boards to attract talent. But still the outcome is not much different. By listing on HerJobs, companies can also reach a different demographic that is hard to reach(typically for a company in US or Europe) Agree that there might be people who use this with not the ideal intentions. But we have to start somewhere. We also try our best to vet companies, not just candidates. > A less patronizing solution would be to figure out why women from emerging countries are underrepresented in existing pipelines and address those factors there. This is exactly we are doing. Currently the community consists of mentors(both male, and female) and helps applicants identify their talent gaps and train them. These gaps are not necessarily technical - but cultural and language gaps.

It is not. No companies on HerJobs are hiring based on gender or country. Herjobs is just a means for companies to diversify their pipelines. Basically this helps in getting more diverse applicants.

TheAdamAndChe 6y ago

If a company were to look for candidates on a site that only accepted rich white men, there would rightfully be outrage. Narrowing the hiring pool to a certain group based on race and sex _is_ discriminatory, and your website is facilitating such blatant discrimination. Edit: to expand on this, to discriminate is to discern a difference in something. You are explicitly discriminating based on gender and national origin. This part is inarguable. Whether it's right or not is another question.

soorajchandran 6y ago
Let me try to put it this way. If you let things run its own course with no external forces, this would lead to a team with people from similar backgrounds and from similar geographies. Because not all people has the same starting point, not all people have access to the education and privilege. But remote work can be most useful for people from emerging economies. It can bring them better salary, better living conditions and this has huge implications in long term. We are trying to do our part in accelerating that.
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yellowapple 6y ago

> No companies on HerJobs are hiring based on gender or country. If that's true, then why would these companies be on HerJobs (a platform which - as far as I can tell - seems to be designed specifically to facilitate hiring based on gender or country)? I definitely agree that we need more diversified pipelines, but I don't agree that creating a restricted pipeline is the way to go about it; this seems more likely to be used as a means to get token women of color on teams for diversity points than anything. It seems more patronizing than anything - like women from emerging countries are somehow fundamentally unable to stand out in existing pipelines and thus need their own pipeline. A less patronizing solution would be to figure out why women from emerging countries are underrepresented in existing pipelines and address those factors there. As it stands, I'm getting a strong "binders full of women" vibe from this, especially since I know full well that your average company will use it exactly in that way: to check off diversity boxes and make it look like they're "woke" as a substitute for actually-meaningful workplace gender/ethnic reform. I wish y'all the best of luck, because this is definitely a problem worth solving; I just don't feel like this is the right way to go about it, or at the very least that it needs some refinement and adjustment to avoid doing more harm than good.

soorajchandran 6y ago
> like women from emerging countries are somehow fundamentally unable to stand out in existing pipelines The fact is that there aren't many women from emerging economies in the pipeline of a typical remote company. This is what we are trying to change. These companies use social media, linkedin ads, other famous job boards to attract talent. But still the outcome is not much different. By listing on HerJobs, companies can also reach a different demographic that is hard to reach(typically for a company in US or Europe) Agree that there might be people who use this with not the ideal intentions. But we have to start somewhere. We also try our best to vet companies, not just candidates. > A less patronizing solution would be to figure out why women from emerging countries are underrepresented in existing pipelines and address those factors there. This is exactly we are doing. Currently the community consists of mentors(both male, and female) and helps applicants identify their talent gaps and train them. These gaps are not necessarily technical - but cultural and language gaps.