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How accurate is this list? I see it mentions that visiting https://danluu.com/ https://danluu.com/ downloads only 9.1 kB but when I actually visit this website
by susam 6y ago
How accurate is this list? I see it mentions that visiting https://danluu.com/ https://danluu.com/ downloads only 9.1 kB but when I actually visit this website with Google Chrome, in the Developer Tools' Network tab, I see that a total of 21.7 kB is transferred.
Name Status Type Size
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danluu.com 200 document 2.5 kB
analytics.js 200 script 18.9 kB
collect 200 xhr 67 B
favicon.ico 404 text/html 266 B
Shameless plug: I maintain a lightweight home page myself at https://susam.in/ https://susam.in/ and I try to keep it as lean as possible without compromising on some custom formatting I care about. So far I have got the transfer size down to less than 6 kB.
- ffpip 6y agoAre you not using an ad blocker? danluu.com has google-analytics, which is a very large script. Please use uBlock Origin.
- susam 6y agoI do use uBlock Origin in general. However, I disabled it while verifying if the download size claimed in this post is accurate.
- RussianCow 6y agoI don't think an ad blocker should be assumed when calculating the size of a web page.
- tshaddox 6y agoIt would depend on precisely what you're measuring. If you're concerned about page loading speeds, then resources that don't block rendering or functionality (like, I assume, a proper GA integration) might not be worth considering. But if you're worried about, say, bandwidth usage, then of course you'd want to count everything.
- RussianCow 6y agoThis is true, although any resources loaded introduce CPU overhead, which can be non-negligible, especially on mobile.
- Bud 6y agoAd blockers already don't work. They're largely useless. If you use one these days, you already know why.
- ffpip 6y agoI don't know why. Can you explain?
- Bud 6y agoBecause of the large and rapidly-increasing number of sites that just refuse to work if you are running an ad blocker, unless you manually disable it first.
- ffpip 6y agoCan you link any site that doesn't work? It is easy enough to try and get past anti-adblock with uBlock Origin. Try uBlock Origin. Don't use stuff like 'Adblock Plus/Pro'.
- RussianCow 6y agoI think I can count on my fingers the number of instances of this that I've seen in my many years of using an ad blocker, and I don't even remember the last time it happened. To claim that some tiny percentage of websites doing this makes ad blockers "useless" is completely ridiculous.
- jan6 6y agothey are LARGELY useful... they do what they say on the tin, at least unless you visit some super agressive site which uses anti-adblock, but, then again you can conf up an anti-anti-adblock ;)
- mattbk1 6y agoYour page looks very nice, I almost want to duplicate my own website into a format that's just a list of links and titles.
- e12e 6y agoNice page. I only miss Firefox reader mode on these simple pages (for my preffered font size, and dark mode). I wonder if it's possible to hint to the browser that it should be available, even if the mark-up is simple? Ah, the late 90s and early 00s when we still had user.css (in a meaningful sense).
- divbzero 6y agoThere are vestiges of user.css like the Style sheet option in Safari. [1] I do wish they were better supported, and that user styles automatically had priority over webpage styles. [1]: https://support.apple.com/guide/safari/advanced-ibrw1075/mac https://support.apple.com/guide/safari/advanced-ibrw1075/mac
- opan 6y agoThere's a way to force reader mode. Add "about:reader?url=" before your URL.
- keyle 6y ago5c hint: a little bit of padding and max-width on your content would make it far more readable!
- divbzero 6y ago6 kB fits in the initial congestion window (first round trip) for TCP. [1] Does an analogous window exist for QUIC and HTTP/3? [1]: https://hpbn.co/building-blocks-of-tcp/#cwnd-growth https://hpbn.co/building-blocks-of-tcp/#cwnd-growth
- collinmanderson 6y ago> Initial congestion window: 10 segments (10 x 1460 bytes ~= 14kb) Yes, my goal (very hard to do sometimes) is to fit all of HTML + Push CSS within 14kb