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Booted the new GPay app on my Android phone this morning. "Sorry, Enterprise accounts are not supported on Google Pay." I've been doing NFC payments through G

Booted the new GPay app on my Android phone this morning. "Sorry, Enterprise accounts are not supported on Google Pay." I've been doing NFC payments through Google Pay for years with the current Google Pay app, so this is kind of a surprise. Also, I do not have an "Enterprise account." I have a GAFYD account from around 2006. Over time Google's turned it into some limited bullshit account, and at this point I'd pay them just to turn all that shit off and turn me into a regular Google account -- or just close the damn thing down if I could transfer all the stuff I've purchased, which Google won't allow me to do. My fault for trusting Google, but the landscape was way different in 2006.

joekrill 6y ago
I'm in the same situation. This used to happen often, years ago when they first introduced GAFYD, and I haven't had an issue in a long time. But looks like things are reverting back now.
- generalk 6y ago
  I've been having issues for a while. Couldn't sign up for Youtube TV with my main account. I could sign up for Google Play Music (formerly Google Music, now RIP) but I couldn't sign up for a family account. Stuff like that. It gets frustrating after a while.
stochastician 6y ago
What the hell, I just tried this and it turns out to be true. Sometimes I think I should go work for google for a year just so I could rage internally about this sort of shit. I too have a GAFYD account I've been paying for since 2009.
- haxney 6y ago
  (Googler here, opinions are my own) People do rage internally about this. Unsurprisingly, a lot of current Google employees were early adopters of new Google features.
  - maximilianroos 6y ago
    What's the case for not allowing these accounts? What do people reply internally?
    - summerlight 6y ago
      Don't know, but probably there's some arbitrary legal complications associated to personal accounts so their lawyers simply decided to put those accounts into the "enterprise" category to avoid all the messes and now we're seeing collateral damages from this short-sighted decision.
    - londons_explore 6y ago
      Google apps for your domain is handled by the GSuite team. All their accounts have various extra requirements, like legal checks, not randomly adding features without consulting the admin, having different sets of servers for some services, having different treatment of private data (since the domain admin must be able to have some control over it) etc. Some product teams within Google don't like all the extra overhead, paperwork, and complexity that adds, so instead they just block all enterprise accounts.
  - pottertheotter 6y ago
    I'm so intrigued by you having an account since 2011 and this is only your 5th comment.
    - t-writescode 6y ago
      They may have another account they use when not speaking as a googler
      - haxney 6y ago
        Nope, this is my only account (assuming you can trust anything I say). I signed up a while back when I was founding a startup company (because of course every founder needs to be on HN), but then stopped coming here after the startup disintegrated. I've started coming back after I got bored going to r/programming during long compiles.
- fomine3 6y ago
  Google also refuses to Add my G Suite Basic account into YouTube Premium family sharing. Annoying.
  - generalk 6y ago
    For a long time I wanted to give Google more money! I tried multiple times to get together a Google Music Family Plan, because I'd bought music and uploaded music and the radio feature was so good. They refused to allow me to pay them more, and refused to allow me to transfer my purchases to another account I verifiably own so I could then pay them more. I know legacy GAFYD accounts don't matter to Google, and I don't expect them to, but it'd be nice to be able to transfer my stuff out. I know we like to point out who Google's real customers are, but after a decade-and-a-half I've actually paid them real money for things, and shockingly would like to continue doing so.
ceejayoz 6y ago
Same here. I can’t transition my Nest to my Google accounts for the same reason.
donor20 6y ago
Hey, glad I'm not alone! Can't use business calendars on my google home (so switched to Alexa which DOES support them oddly despite whatever mumbo jumbo google says). Can't share home setup to my wife. A variety of family sharing issues. I mean, your evangalists (in addition to an actual business domain with big bucks I pay for gsuite for myself for little bucks) are locked out. It really brings home how google never actually finishes / gets the final 10-20% done and working, stuff just goes to zombieland.

joekrill 6y ago

I'm in the same situation. This used to happen often, years ago when they first introduced GAFYD, and I haven't had an issue in a long time. But looks like things are reverting back now.

generalk 6y ago
I've been having issues for a while. Couldn't sign up for Youtube TV with my main account. I could sign up for Google Play Music (formerly Google Music, now RIP) but I couldn't sign up for a family account. Stuff like that. It gets frustrating after a while.

stochastician 6y ago

What the hell, I just tried this and it turns out to be true. Sometimes I think I should go work for google for a year just so I could rage internally about this sort of shit. I too have a GAFYD account I've been paying for since 2009.

haxney 6y ago
(Googler here, opinions are my own) People do rage internally about this. Unsurprisingly, a lot of current Google employees were early adopters of new Google features.
- maximilianroos 6y ago
  What's the case for not allowing these accounts? What do people reply internally?
  - summerlight 6y ago
    Don't know, but probably there's some arbitrary legal complications associated to personal accounts so their lawyers simply decided to put those accounts into the "enterprise" category to avoid all the messes and now we're seeing collateral damages from this short-sighted decision.
  - londons_explore 6y ago
    Google apps for your domain is handled by the GSuite team. All their accounts have various extra requirements, like legal checks, not randomly adding features without consulting the admin, having different sets of servers for some services, having different treatment of private data (since the domain admin must be able to have some control over it) etc. Some product teams within Google don't like all the extra overhead, paperwork, and complexity that adds, so instead they just block all enterprise accounts.
- pottertheotter 6y ago
  I'm so intrigued by you having an account since 2011 and this is only your 5th comment.
  - t-writescode 6y ago
    They may have another account they use when not speaking as a googler
    - haxney 6y ago
      Nope, this is my only account (assuming you can trust anything I say). I signed up a while back when I was founding a startup company (because of course every founder needs to be on HN), but then stopped coming here after the startup disintegrated. I've started coming back after I got bored going to r/programming during long compiles.
fomine3 6y ago
Google also refuses to Add my G Suite Basic account into YouTube Premium family sharing. Annoying.
- generalk 6y ago
  For a long time I wanted to give Google more money! I tried multiple times to get together a Google Music Family Plan, because I'd bought music and uploaded music and the radio feature was so good. They refused to allow me to pay them more, and refused to allow me to transfer my purchases to another account I verifiably own so I could then pay them more. I know legacy GAFYD accounts don't matter to Google, and I don't expect them to, but it'd be nice to be able to transfer my stuff out. I know we like to point out who Google's real customers are, but after a decade-and-a-half I've actually paid them real money for things, and shockingly would like to continue doing so.

ceejayoz 6y ago

Same here. I can’t transition my Nest to my Google accounts for the same reason.

donor20 6y ago

Hey, glad I'm not alone! Can't use business calendars on my google home (so switched to Alexa which DOES support them oddly despite whatever mumbo jumbo google says). Can't share home setup to my wife. A variety of family sharing issues. I mean, your evangalists (in addition to an actual business domain with big bucks I pay for gsuite for myself for little bucks) are locked out. It really brings home how google never actually finishes / gets the final 10-20% done and working, stuff just goes to zombieland.