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No it is not an engineering trade off. If you had one of these phones you would know. The throttling here was so bad, the phones were completely unusable durin

No it is not an engineering trade off. If you had one of these phones you would know. The throttling here was so bad, the phones were completely unusable during the throttling. Sure, the operating system was running but doing basic tasks like using Apple maps or even sending a message would be effectively impossible. Imagine trying to play a video game at 2 frame per second. Unusable. The real decision was that Apple didn't want to pay for millions of battery replacements, so Apple came up with a "software" fix for a hardware problem... Except that the software fix made the phone unusable.

1123581321 6y ago
I experienced it as well and this isn’t true either. The throttling was significant (40%, rough ballpark) but the phones were usable. A game that played that poorly would not have run well at full power. Maps and messaging was functional. They should have communicated the change, in case that qualification is needed.
- bgorman 6y ago
  Have you ever considered that multiple generations of phones were effected by this issue and your single anecdote doesn't describe the full spectrum of behavior. I don't appreciate being called a liar, especially about an issue that personally effected me to the point I left the Apple ecosystem for years. (I gave up my iPhone before the revelations, but I am 100% sure in retrospect I was being throttled)
  - 1123581321 6y ago
    Yes, I experienced the throttling on the two slowest processors affected. I did not mean to call you a liar. I'm sorry about that. However, you were wrong that anyone with experience would agree with you.
  - artimaeis 6y ago
    Did you ever confirm if the device was being throttled? It was only not user-discoverable for a few months before a point release added the ability to see it from the Settings>Battery menu.
  - kstrauser 6y ago
    I don't think the person you were replying to called you a liar. They just had a different experience than yours.
    - socceroos 6y ago
      > I experienced it as well and this isn’t true either. I think you'd have to be knowingly looking the other way to take this so positively. Telling someone that what they said "isn't true" is analogous to calling them a liar.
      - 1123581321 6y ago
        Yes, I apologized to them for that reason. While I did mean to suggest they perhaps misremembered, I don’t think that is the same as lying, and either way the wording was too strong.

1123581321 6y ago

I experienced it as well and this isn’t true either. The throttling was significant (40%, rough ballpark) but the phones were usable. A game that played that poorly would not have run well at full power. Maps and messaging was functional. They should have communicated the change, in case that qualification is needed.

bgorman 6y ago
Have you ever considered that multiple generations of phones were effected by this issue and your single anecdote doesn't describe the full spectrum of behavior. I don't appreciate being called a liar, especially about an issue that personally effected me to the point I left the Apple ecosystem for years. (I gave up my iPhone before the revelations, but I am 100% sure in retrospect I was being throttled)
- 1123581321 6y ago
  Yes, I experienced the throttling on the two slowest processors affected. I did not mean to call you a liar. I'm sorry about that. However, you were wrong that anyone with experience would agree with you.
- artimaeis 6y ago
  Did you ever confirm if the device was being throttled? It was only not user-discoverable for a few months before a point release added the ability to see it from the Settings>Battery menu.
- kstrauser 6y ago
  I don't think the person you were replying to called you a liar. They just had a different experience than yours.
  - socceroos 6y ago
    > I experienced it as well and this isn’t true either. I think you'd have to be knowingly looking the other way to take this so positively. Telling someone that what they said "isn't true" is analogous to calling them a liar.
    - 1123581321 6y ago
      Yes, I apologized to them for that reason. While I did mean to suggest they perhaps misremembered, I don’t think that is the same as lying, and either way the wording was too strong.