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Written in PHP and using CVS for version control - Any plans for modernization?

by csense 6y ago

SftwreEngnr 6y ago
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
- Kocrachon 6y ago
  Not sure how I feel about my medical information being handled by PHP...
  - gen220 6y ago
    This won't make you feel any better... Many healthcare systems are a COBOL-dialect all the way at the bottom. Some of these had PHP layers shimmed in, when the web became a thing. I've seen php scripts that shell out to .bat's, that interface with the COBOL engine. It's a mad world. For context, a large amount of healthtech software was written in the 80s (kind of like fintech, the difference is that there's no competitive advantage to having better technology in health). It's a minor miracle that anything works at all.
    - ch4s3 6y ago
      I showed someone from the Allscripts innovation group what I could do in an Elixir repl once, and his jaw hit the floor. Then I showed him how we wrote parsers. He said we'd never make it because we turned around new features too fast for anyone to trust us.
  - ch4s3 6y ago
    Haha, among the most popular EMR you'll find a snarl of Perl, PHP, VB, Mumps/M, C#, old Java, cobol, and several proprietary languages. There is a small number of people who die in the US every year do to medical mistakes attributable to software bugs.
  - zanderwohl 6y ago
    Would it make you feel better to know your PID is being stored in a database language where the only data type is strings, and there is an intrinsic command to interpret any string as code?
burnte 6y ago
That's still better than a lot of healthcare software. I have no issues with it running PHP, CVS is more of a hassle for devs. My current EMR only recently came out with a UI that works outside of IE and their proprietary ActiveX controls.
roywiggins 6y ago
Hey, at least it's not MUMPS. And CVS? Compared to certain other EHS software, that's luxury.
- three_seagrass 6y ago
  I thought Epic was migrating to dot net?
  - z3ugma 6y ago
    The frontend / client app, yes. The backend DBMS and business logic called Chronicles is still written in M aka MUMPS.
mixonic 6y ago
OpenEMR collaboration happens on GitHub: https://github.com/openemr/openemr https://github.com/openemr/openemr Yeah it started in CVS in 1998ish :-p

Written in PHP and using CVS for version control - Any plans for modernization?

by csense 6y ago

Written in PHP and using CVS for version control - Any plans for modernization?

SftwreEngnr 6y ago

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Kocrachon 6y ago
Not sure how I feel about my medical information being handled by PHP...
- gen220 6y ago
  This won't make you feel any better... Many healthcare systems are a COBOL-dialect all the way at the bottom. Some of these had PHP layers shimmed in, when the web became a thing. I've seen php scripts that shell out to .bat's, that interface with the COBOL engine. It's a mad world. For context, a large amount of healthtech software was written in the 80s (kind of like fintech, the difference is that there's no competitive advantage to having better technology in health). It's a minor miracle that anything works at all.
  - ch4s3 6y ago
    I showed someone from the Allscripts innovation group what I could do in an Elixir repl once, and his jaw hit the floor. Then I showed him how we wrote parsers. He said we'd never make it because we turned around new features too fast for anyone to trust us.
- ch4s3 6y ago
  Haha, among the most popular EMR you'll find a snarl of Perl, PHP, VB, Mumps/M, C#, old Java, cobol, and several proprietary languages. There is a small number of people who die in the US every year do to medical mistakes attributable to software bugs.
- zanderwohl 6y ago
  Would it make you feel better to know your PID is being stored in a database language where the only data type is strings, and there is an intrinsic command to interpret any string as code?

burnte 6y ago

That's still better than a lot of healthcare software. I have no issues with it running PHP, CVS is more of a hassle for devs. My current EMR only recently came out with a UI that works outside of IE and their proprietary ActiveX controls.

roywiggins 6y ago

Hey, at least it's not MUMPS. And CVS? Compared to certain other EHS software, that's luxury.

three_seagrass 6y ago
I thought Epic was migrating to dot net?
- z3ugma 6y ago
  The frontend / client app, yes. The backend DBMS and business logic called Chronicles is still written in M aka MUMPS.

mixonic 6y ago

OpenEMR collaboration happens on GitHub: https://github.com/openemr/openemr https://github.com/openemr/openemr Yeah it started in CVS in 1998ish :-p