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It has actually. It starts a lot faster, and has a "lite" mode where it's more like a text editor. As for how it looks, well, it's an IDE. It looks fine to me.

It has actually. It starts a lot faster, and has a "lite" mode where it's more like a text editor. As for how it looks, well, it's an IDE. It looks fine to me. There's a dark mode if you want it, the look is modern yet dense: sparsity being a common issue with web apps. Plenty of people use and like it.

sooheon 6y ago
The point about information density cannot be stressed enough for a "pro" tool. Its keyboard friendliness is also highly underrated due to being a GUI -- I found it's rivaled only by emacs/vim in that I can go an entire work day without clicking around with a mouse.
pwdisswordfish0 6y ago
It has nothing to do with dark mode. Dark mode screenshots are the first thing you'll see when you go looking for how IDEA looks today. It looks like a dark version of the UI from 5 years ago, unsurprisingly. Which means it still looks about as out of place as any Electron app. Although one would hope they've dealt with the bad antialiasing by now. Hard to say without downloading and running it, but the continued lack of polish and past propensity to pass the buck makes one question, "why bother?" > As for how it looks, well, it's an IDE. Not sure what this is supposed to mean. There are good looking IDEs. There's not something inherent to them that makes one look the way IDEA looks. It's the aforementioned blindspots and the "I don't see anything wrong with it" attitude that causes that.
- thu2111 6y ago
  My point is, I don't see the problems. Anti-aliasing works fine. The text looks good to me, always did. Looking out of place ... well, on macOS at least you can pick a mac-like theme. I don't because I prefer the IntelliJ theme but there's not much difference to it. All Mac apps are Windows 98 style battleship grey these days, the era when native toolkits had radically different looks to portable toolkits is over for a long time now.
  - pwdisswordfish0 6y ago
    > My point is, I don't see the problems. Well, yeah... which is my point.

sooheon 6y ago

The point about information density cannot be stressed enough for a "pro" tool. Its keyboard friendliness is also highly underrated due to being a GUI -- I found it's rivaled only by emacs/vim in that I can go an entire work day without clicking around with a mouse.

pwdisswordfish0 6y ago

It has nothing to do with dark mode. Dark mode screenshots are the first thing you'll see when you go looking for how IDEA looks today. It looks like a dark version of the UI from 5 years ago, unsurprisingly. Which means it still looks about as out of place as any Electron app. Although one would hope they've dealt with the bad antialiasing by now. Hard to say without downloading and running it, but the continued lack of polish and past propensity to pass the buck makes one question, "why bother?" > As for how it looks, well, it's an IDE. Not sure what this is supposed to mean. There are good looking IDEs. There's not something inherent to them that makes one look the way IDEA looks. It's the aforementioned blindspots and the "I don't see anything wrong with it" attitude that causes that.

thu2111 6y ago
My point is, I don't see the problems. Anti-aliasing works fine. The text looks good to me, always did. Looking out of place ... well, on macOS at least you can pick a mac-like theme. I don't because I prefer the IntelliJ theme but there's not much difference to it. All Mac apps are Windows 98 style battleship grey these days, the era when native toolkits had radically different looks to portable toolkits is over for a long time now.
- pwdisswordfish0 6y ago
  > My point is, I don't see the problems. Well, yeah... which is my point.