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I think the reason your opinion is different than most people you know is because you really know nothing about china unfortunately. > They are afraid of Taiwa

I think the reason your opinion is different than most people you know is because you really know nothing about china unfortunately. > They are afraid of Taiwan because Taiwan is the living example that China can prosper without the CCP. Not really, 20 years ago maybe? but now that the first tier provinces have mostly caught up economically it's really just a matter of time before rest of china catches up. > They are afraid of Hong Kong because it's an example of resistance to the regime. again, most chinese think the hongkong riots as a bunch of misguided youth manipulated by western media. you may not agree with it, but that's the view held in china right now. > They are afraid of religions because no matter how much you punish someone, you won't be able to make them worship you instead. or maybe the fact religion has been the main drivers for a whole bunch of wars? > They are afraid of wealthy people because they can taste freedom and they can vision a China without the CCP. is that why more and more wealthy chinese people are expressing their support for ccp abroad, but are instead labelled as brainwashed?

dcolkitt 6y ago
> Not really, 20 years ago maybe? but now that the first tier provinces have mostly caught up economically it's really just a matter of time before rest of china catches up. This isn't even remotely true. Taiwan has a GDP per capita of $54,000.[1] The two wealthiest administrative division in China are Shanghai at $38,000 and Beijing at $37,000[2]. Moreover it's not an apples-to-apples comparison because those cities are consistently drawing the best and the brightest from the entire country. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_administrative_divisions_by_GDP_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_administrative...
- hungryhobo 6y ago
  Can you tell the difference in living standards between 54,000 and 38,000?
  - BobbyJo 6y ago
    It's nearly 50% greater, so I'm sure the difference is palpable.
  - jbob2000 6y ago
    That’s a 40% increase in GDP. Would you take a 40% raise at your current job?
    - hungryhobo 6y ago
      Heh I like how you interpret data. I think if I'm only earning 70% of what I earn right now, I wouldn't be that much worse
      - 1123581321 6y ago
        You clearly make more than $54,000 to say that.
  - jumpman500 6y ago
    16,000 per person
  - mminer237 6y ago
    I mean, that's roughly the difference between living in western Europe and living in eastern Europe or the Caribbean.
    - x87678r 6y ago
      Germany 45,466 Poland 15,304 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nomi...
troughway 6y ago
Is China part of The Great Reset? If not, what's a speedy way to get Chinese citizenship?
mlindner 6y ago
There is a very big difference between what the average person in China thinks and what the leaders of China think. A revolution doesn't need a majority to happen, just a single to low double digit percentage to happen. OP was talking about the leader of China, your post is talking about the populace of China.
mads 6y ago
> or maybe the fact religion has been the main drivers for a whole bunch of wars? More likely that they consider religion a powerful fictional structure competing with their own fictional structure. No natural law dictates that either of them should dominate, so they chose to suppress the competition.
Splendor 6y ago
> "...because you really know nothing about china unfortunately." Gross.
jameson 6y ago
> the first tier provinces have mostly caught up economically it's really just a matter of time before rest of china catches up Prosperity doesn't have to be economically. It can simply mean financial and overall governing independence. OP's point is not that Taiwan is better than China, but to point out that Chinese people can do well without CCP and this is what CCP doesn't want people to know. Also Taiwanese economy has many sections from CCP so I'd imagine it'll do well above current standards without them

dcolkitt 6y ago

> Not really, 20 years ago maybe? but now that the first tier provinces have mostly caught up economically it's really just a matter of time before rest of china catches up. This isn't even remotely true. Taiwan has a GDP per capita of $54,000.[1] The two wealthiest administrative division in China are Shanghai at $38,000 and Beijing at $37,000[2]. Moreover it's not an apples-to-apples comparison because those cities are consistently drawing the best and the brightest from the entire country. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_administrative_divisions_by_GDP_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_administrative...

hungryhobo 6y ago
Can you tell the difference in living standards between 54,000 and 38,000?
- BobbyJo 6y ago
  It's nearly 50% greater, so I'm sure the difference is palpable.
- jbob2000 6y ago
  That’s a 40% increase in GDP. Would you take a 40% raise at your current job?
  - hungryhobo 6y ago
    Heh I like how you interpret data. I think if I'm only earning 70% of what I earn right now, I wouldn't be that much worse
    - 1123581321 6y ago
      You clearly make more than $54,000 to say that.
- jumpman500 6y ago
  16,000 per person
- mminer237 6y ago
  I mean, that's roughly the difference between living in western Europe and living in eastern Europe or the Caribbean.
  - x87678r 6y ago
    Germany 45,466 Poland 15,304 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nomi...

troughway 6y ago

Is China part of The Great Reset? If not, what's a speedy way to get Chinese citizenship?

mlindner 6y ago

There is a very big difference between what the average person in China thinks and what the leaders of China think. A revolution doesn't need a majority to happen, just a single to low double digit percentage to happen. OP was talking about the leader of China, your post is talking about the populace of China.

mads 6y ago

> or maybe the fact religion has been the main drivers for a whole bunch of wars? More likely that they consider religion a powerful fictional structure competing with their own fictional structure. No natural law dictates that either of them should dominate, so they chose to suppress the competition.

Splendor 6y ago

> "...because you really know nothing about china unfortunately." Gross.

jameson 6y ago

> the first tier provinces have mostly caught up economically it's really just a matter of time before rest of china catches up Prosperity doesn't have to be economically. It can simply mean financial and overall governing independence. OP's point is not that Taiwan is better than China, but to point out that Chinese people can do well without CCP and this is what CCP doesn't want people to know. Also Taiwanese economy has many sections from CCP so I'd imagine it'll do well above current standards without them