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Progressives are widely known for things like increasing the minimum wage, expanding access to health care, or legalizing drugs. I've never heard progressives p

Progressives are widely known for things like increasing the minimum wage, expanding access to health care, or legalizing drugs. I've never heard progressives pushing for forced public apologies.

textgel 6y ago
Willful blindness is a common tactic too; perhaps a psychological extension of the progressive safe-space doctrine but I couldn't be certain. Another one that interests me greatly is the frequent use of the narcissists prayer in debate, have you ever heard it? It goes as follows. That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did... You deserved it. I suppose I'll start the ball rolling. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/rosetta-comet-dr-matt-taylor-apology-sexist-shirt https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/rosetta-come...
11thEarlOfMar 6y ago
AFAIK, Cortes is a Progressive[0], and a congressperson, which puts her in a position of power. She encouraged her supporters to create a list of Trump supporters so they can be denied employment in the future[1]. Jennifer Rubin, likely also a Progressive[2], said: “any [Republican] now promoting rejection of an election or calling to not to follow the will of voters or making baseless allegations of fraud should never serve in office, join a corporate board, find a faculty position or be accepted into ‘polite’ society. We have a list.” More than apologies, these two at least, are looking to punish. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez [1] https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/aoc-activists-hint-blacklisting-trump-supporters-after-election https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/aoc-activists-hint-b... [2] https://www.wctrib.com/opinion/columns/4036749-Jennifer-Rubin-Heres-how-staunch-progressives-can-win-the-hearts-of-Never-Trumpers https://www.wctrib.com/opinion/columns/4036749-Jennifer-Rubi...
- justatdotin 6y ago
  maybe baseless allegations of fraud exceeds the domain of "So you've made a mistake"
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- pmyteh 6y ago
  Jennifer Rubin is not a progressive. She's a prominent (anti-Trump) conservative columnist, hired by the Washington Post as balance/provocation. Her blog is even called 'Right Turn'.
- shirakawasuna 6y ago
  1. Her last name is Ocasio-Cortez. 2. Progressivism barely means anything. You can characterize virtually anyone who even just says anything positive about social change as progressive. Better to characterize her as a social democrat or democratic socialist, depending on your impression. 3. "Just the News" is an incredible source to list. A right-wing rag founded by the former editor-in-chief of The Washington Times. Might as well just refer to the actual tweets: https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324807776510595078 https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324807776510595078. They are about the typical denialism that follows reactionaries that did, you know, horrible things and not allowing their images to be blindly rehabilitated as public servants. Emphasis on remembering the actions of public servants, not whether someone will simply be denied employment. 4. Jennifer Rubin is a never-Trump conservative turned American establishment "centrist" (which is still a right wing position).

Progressives are widely known for things like increasing the minimum wage, expanding access to health care, or legalizing drugs. I've never heard progressives pushing for forced public apologies.

textgel 6y ago

Willful blindness is a common tactic too; perhaps a psychological extension of the progressive safe-space doctrine but I couldn't be certain. Another one that interests me greatly is the frequent use of the narcissists prayer in debate, have you ever heard it? It goes as follows. That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did... You deserved it. I suppose I'll start the ball rolling. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/rosetta-comet-dr-matt-taylor-apology-sexist-shirt https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/rosetta-come...

11thEarlOfMar 6y ago

AFAIK, Cortes is a Progressive[0], and a congressperson, which puts her in a position of power. She encouraged her supporters to create a list of Trump supporters so they can be denied employment in the future[1]. Jennifer Rubin, likely also a Progressive[2], said: “any [Republican] now promoting rejection of an election or calling to not to follow the will of voters or making baseless allegations of fraud should never serve in office, join a corporate board, find a faculty position or be accepted into ‘polite’ society. We have a list.” More than apologies, these two at least, are looking to punish. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez [1] https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/aoc-activists-hint-blacklisting-trump-supporters-after-election https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/aoc-activists-hint-b... [2] https://www.wctrib.com/opinion/columns/4036749-Jennifer-Rubin-Heres-how-staunch-progressives-can-win-the-hearts-of-Never-Trumpers https://www.wctrib.com/opinion/columns/4036749-Jennifer-Rubi...

justatdotin 6y ago
maybe baseless allegations of fraud exceeds the domain of "So you've made a mistake"
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pmyteh 6y ago
Jennifer Rubin is not a progressive. She's a prominent (anti-Trump) conservative columnist, hired by the Washington Post as balance/provocation. Her blog is even called 'Right Turn'.
shirakawasuna 6y ago
1. Her last name is Ocasio-Cortez. 2. Progressivism barely means anything. You can characterize virtually anyone who even just says anything positive about social change as progressive. Better to characterize her as a social democrat or democratic socialist, depending on your impression. 3. "Just the News" is an incredible source to list. A right-wing rag founded by the former editor-in-chief of The Washington Times. Might as well just refer to the actual tweets: https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324807776510595078 https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324807776510595078. They are about the typical denialism that follows reactionaries that did, you know, horrible things and not allowing their images to be blindly rehabilitated as public servants. Emphasis on remembering the actions of public servants, not whether someone will simply be denied employment. 4. Jennifer Rubin is a never-Trump conservative turned American establishment "centrist" (which is still a right wing position).