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Alex Acosta’s email inbox during critical period of Jeffrey Epstein case missing

51 points by AndrewBissell 6y ago

LinuxBender 6y ago
Government email? Personal email? If government, there will be backups and anti-tampering. There would also be copies on servers that involved anyone in the email threads.
- cwkoss 6y ago
  I bet US intelligence agencies have this capability for governmental email addresses. Though they shouldn't have this capability.
  - LinuxBender 6y ago
    They actually should but not because of technology. It would just be a subpoena or an order, if it comes from the right group. Government records are retained for a minimum period of time. If records are missing, then investigators need to find out why. It is not clear to me however if this is personal or government systems we are talking about.
    - javagram 6y ago
      NSA or CIA spying on Americans in the USA is illegal, so they really shouldn’t have access to the official emails. Government emails are supposed to be retained by the National Archives and Records Administration, not by an intelligence agency.
      - LinuxBender 6y ago
        Agreed. I worded that poorly. That is why I am saying the intelligence agencies won't have it. They would use policy to get the data, which ultimately translates into a court order. Failure to comply with the order would alert investigators to a bigger problem.
didntkillself 6y ago
Remember that Acosta stated that the US intelligence community approached and pressured him to limit charges to Epstein because Epstein was one of their agents. The implication here is that the sex trafficking to people in power was being used by US intelligence to get compromising material and leverage of leaders - which would not only be a significant scandal for US intelligence but also sufficient motivation for Epstein assassination/disappearing.
- tschwimmer 6y ago
  source?
  - didntkillself 6y ago
    Here are the sourced listed in Acosta's Wikipedia article: - Ward, Vicky (July 9, 2019). "Jeffrey Epstein's Sick Story Played Out for Years in Plain Sight". The Daily Beast. Archived from the original on July 10, 2019. Retrieved July 11, 2019. - "It Sure Looks Like Jeffrey Epstein Was a Spy—But Whose?". July 10, 2019. Archived from the original on December 18, 2019. Retrieved December 11, 2019. - North, Anna (August 14, 2019). "Why the Jeffrey Epstein case inspires so many conspiracy theories". Vox. Archived from the original on November 30, 2019. Retrieved December 11, 2019. It's easy to find mainstream media coverage for additional sources as this was widely reported. Search "epstein acosta intelligence" or "acosta epstein belonged to intelligence".
- jjeaff 6y ago
  From what I read, it sounded like Acosta said that "someone identifying themselves as an intelligence agent" told him that Epstein was one of theirs. It did not sound like they used official channels. Which seems to me just as likely that someone was paid to say that or that Acosta made it up to cover his butt for being the softest prosecutor ever.
  - AndrewBissell 6y ago
    Yeah I'm sure it happens very often that a U.S. Attorney like Acosta gets taken in by a rando off the street claiming to be with the CIA.
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jjones2 6y ago
So... Not only were the guards "sleeping" the day the Epstein was murdered, only a few cameras were working, and when it was time to bring the evidence to court the tapes were mysteriously "corrupted" to the point where the judge couldn't view them. Also on the Chans a guard who worked at the facility posted how they came and killed Epstein and didn't log a military vehicle who came to their post. Now, if you have the balls to call any of this a "conspiracy" or that the US government isn't as corrupt as a run of the mill crack-pot tyrant, come have a word with me. The audacity. Acosta told them Epstein couldn't be touched because he's "intelligence". Fucking corrupt to the core. Every day, I ask my self "are the laws that impact me negatively even worth following?" I think I've found my answer.
- nkrisc 6y ago
  Alternative theory: He was facing life in prison and was going to have his awful secrets exposed in detail in court so he just took the easy way out since he was going to die in prison anyway. His life was already over. I assume most people in his situation would prefer to just kill themselves. It's not really a stretch to imagine why he would want to kill himself. It's much more of a stretch the imagine a vast conspiracy to kill him. I'm going to prefer the simplest explanation 9 of 10 times. But hey, who knows?
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  - linksnapzz 6y ago
    He became the first person to do that, in a building filled top to bottom with people with as much or more reasons to kill themselves, in thirteen years. And, he did so at the precise moment there would be no witnesses or observers, human or electronic. When you are done using it, please clean off Ockham’s Butterknife and put it back in the drawer.
    - nkrisc 6y ago
      Well of course he did at the precise moment there were no observers or witnesses or he wouldn't have been able to do it, they'd have seen him and stopped it. If there was some vast conspiracy, why wouldn't they have just killed him before he was in custody when it would have been far easier?
tomcam 6y ago
His inbox committed suicide

51 points by AndrewBissell 6y ago

Government email? Personal email? If government, there will be backups and anti-tampering. There would also be copies on servers that involved anyone in the email threads.

cwkoss 6y ago
I bet US intelligence agencies have this capability for governmental email addresses. Though they shouldn't have this capability.
- LinuxBender 6y ago
  They actually should but not because of technology. It would just be a subpoena or an order, if it comes from the right group. Government records are retained for a minimum period of time. If records are missing, then investigators need to find out why. It is not clear to me however if this is personal or government systems we are talking about.
  - javagram 6y ago
    NSA or CIA spying on Americans in the USA is illegal, so they really shouldn’t have access to the official emails. Government emails are supposed to be retained by the National Archives and Records Administration, not by an intelligence agency.
    - LinuxBender 6y ago
      Agreed. I worded that poorly. That is why I am saying the intelligence agencies won't have it. They would use policy to get the data, which ultimately translates into a court order. Failure to comply with the order would alert investigators to a bigger problem.

didntkillself 6y ago

Remember that Acosta stated that the US intelligence community approached and pressured him to limit charges to Epstein because Epstein was one of their agents. The implication here is that the sex trafficking to people in power was being used by US intelligence to get compromising material and leverage of leaders - which would not only be a significant scandal for US intelligence but also sufficient motivation for Epstein assassination/disappearing.

tschwimmer 6y ago
source?
- didntkillself 6y ago
  Here are the sourced listed in Acosta's Wikipedia article: - Ward, Vicky (July 9, 2019). "Jeffrey Epstein's Sick Story Played Out for Years in Plain Sight". The Daily Beast. Archived from the original on July 10, 2019. Retrieved July 11, 2019. - "It Sure Looks Like Jeffrey Epstein Was a Spy—But Whose?". July 10, 2019. Archived from the original on December 18, 2019. Retrieved December 11, 2019. - North, Anna (August 14, 2019). "Why the Jeffrey Epstein case inspires so many conspiracy theories". Vox. Archived from the original on November 30, 2019. Retrieved December 11, 2019. It's easy to find mainstream media coverage for additional sources as this was widely reported. Search "epstein acosta intelligence" or "acosta epstein belonged to intelligence".
jjeaff 6y ago
From what I read, it sounded like Acosta said that "someone identifying themselves as an intelligence agent" told him that Epstein was one of theirs. It did not sound like they used official channels. Which seems to me just as likely that someone was paid to say that or that Acosta made it up to cover his butt for being the softest prosecutor ever.
- AndrewBissell 6y ago
  Yeah I'm sure it happens very often that a U.S. Attorney like Acosta gets taken in by a rando off the street claiming to be with the CIA.

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jjones2 6y ago

So... Not only were the guards "sleeping" the day the Epstein was murdered, only a few cameras were working, and when it was time to bring the evidence to court the tapes were mysteriously "corrupted" to the point where the judge couldn't view them. Also on the Chans a guard who worked at the facility posted how they came and killed Epstein and didn't log a military vehicle who came to their post. Now, if you have the balls to call any of this a "conspiracy" or that the US government isn't as corrupt as a run of the mill crack-pot tyrant, come have a word with me. The audacity. Acosta told them Epstein couldn't be touched because he's "intelligence". Fucking corrupt to the core. Every day, I ask my self "are the laws that impact me negatively even worth following?" I think I've found my answer.

nkrisc 6y ago
Alternative theory: He was facing life in prison and was going to have his awful secrets exposed in detail in court so he just took the easy way out since he was going to die in prison anyway. His life was already over. I assume most people in his situation would prefer to just kill themselves. It's not really a stretch to imagine why he would want to kill himself. It's much more of a stretch the imagine a vast conspiracy to kill him. I'm going to prefer the simplest explanation 9 of 10 times. But hey, who knows?
- deleted 6y ago
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- linksnapzz 6y ago
  He became the first person to do that, in a building filled top to bottom with people with as much or more reasons to kill themselves, in thirteen years. And, he did so at the precise moment there would be no witnesses or observers, human or electronic. When you are done using it, please clean off Ockham’s Butterknife and put it back in the drawer.
  - nkrisc 6y ago
    Well of course he did at the precise moment there were no observers or witnesses or he wouldn't have been able to do it, they'd have seen him and stopped it. If there was some vast conspiracy, why wouldn't they have just killed him before he was in custody when it would have been far easier?

tomcam 6y ago

His inbox committed suicide