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I'm generally of the opinion that if a creator doesn't want you to watch or listen to something, you shouldn't watch or listen to it. The solution to DRM is no

I'm generally of the opinion that if a creator doesn't want you to watch or listen to something, you shouldn't watch or listen to it. The solution to DRM is not to work around it, it is that everyone refuses to use or pay for it.

danlugo92 6y ago
Agreed. I don't watch movies or TV shows anymore except for the occasional trip to the big screen (last movie was Avengers, next movie I'll go will be Tenet). Not to mention I don't have a credit card and can't pay for stuff even if I wanted (last tv show I watched was HBO's Westworld will probably skip next season though). Only thing I pay for is Spotify through a family plan, relative has a credit card of course.
- Ayesh 6y ago
  Do you not use a credit card by choice? Because you can probably just use a debit card.
autoexec 6y ago
"voting with your dollar" does less than most boycotts which are basically worthless. I mean, you could cut yourself off from nearly every form of entertainment created in the last 150 years going forward to stick it to the man I guess... Personally, I'll stick with paying for stuff when I want and can afford to and if a company charges too much or places too many restrictions on the works they've bought the rights to from a creator I'll consider seeking out alternative means to get what I want or work around those restrictions. It's a nice balance that lets me reward companies that acquire great works that are priced well and not overly encumbered by DRM while still letting me participate in our culture.
- dingaling 6y ago
  > I'll consider seeking out alternative means to get what I want or work around those restrictions. But consider the time-value you're expending in doing so, versus just not engaging. Invert the scenario: say that you sent Big Media Corp a bagful of poker chips in payment for watching something. Do you think they'd expend their time going down to the casino to cash them in? Of course not. So why waste your time playing around their rules? Just walk away.
  - DarkmSparks 6y ago
    Exactly this. Doesn't need to be a political statement or be aimed at achieving some secondary agenda. It is enough to just not spend time and money on things that only stand in your way or violate your rights (the right to make a personal backup copy is still a right isnt it?). You do not have to break anyones rules to just _not_ engage with people who assume their paying customers are all criminals and violate the spirit of copyright law doing so.
  - autoexec 6y ago
    > But consider the time-value you're expending in doing so, versus just not engaging. Most;y it's because I really do want the content. When you replace money with time/effort you still have to do the math to see if it's worth it to you. I think most of the time that math checks out, but there certainly have been times when it wasn't and I didn't bother. There are places where I usually do follow your philosophy of 'just walk away' for example: websites that don't display basic content without javascript or need you to disable ad-blockers. 9.8 times out of 10, I'll just click away because I really just don't care that much. Everyone has their own tolerances for putting up with broken things. Mine my just be higher than most in some areas but they are defiantly lower in others.
criddell 6y ago
> creator doesn't want you to watch or listen to something, you shouldn't watch or listen to it Their goal is to reduce infringement on their copyright. Rightsholders generally offer plenty of ways to watch or listen to the work in a non-infringing way.

danlugo92 6y ago

Agreed. I don't watch movies or TV shows anymore except for the occasional trip to the big screen (last movie was Avengers, next movie I'll go will be Tenet). Not to mention I don't have a credit card and can't pay for stuff even if I wanted (last tv show I watched was HBO's Westworld will probably skip next season though). Only thing I pay for is Spotify through a family plan, relative has a credit card of course.

Ayesh 6y ago
Do you not use a credit card by choice? Because you can probably just use a debit card.

autoexec 6y ago

"voting with your dollar" does less than most boycotts which are basically worthless. I mean, you could cut yourself off from nearly every form of entertainment created in the last 150 years going forward to stick it to the man I guess... Personally, I'll stick with paying for stuff when I want and can afford to and if a company charges too much or places too many restrictions on the works they've bought the rights to from a creator I'll consider seeking out alternative means to get what I want or work around those restrictions. It's a nice balance that lets me reward companies that acquire great works that are priced well and not overly encumbered by DRM while still letting me participate in our culture.

dingaling 6y ago
> I'll consider seeking out alternative means to get what I want or work around those restrictions. But consider the time-value you're expending in doing so, versus just not engaging. Invert the scenario: say that you sent Big Media Corp a bagful of poker chips in payment for watching something. Do you think they'd expend their time going down to the casino to cash them in? Of course not. So why waste your time playing around their rules? Just walk away.
- DarkmSparks 6y ago
  Exactly this. Doesn't need to be a political statement or be aimed at achieving some secondary agenda. It is enough to just not spend time and money on things that only stand in your way or violate your rights (the right to make a personal backup copy is still a right isnt it?). You do not have to break anyones rules to just _not_ engage with people who assume their paying customers are all criminals and violate the spirit of copyright law doing so.
- autoexec 6y ago
  > But consider the time-value you're expending in doing so, versus just not engaging. Most;y it's because I really do want the content. When you replace money with time/effort you still have to do the math to see if it's worth it to you. I think most of the time that math checks out, but there certainly have been times when it wasn't and I didn't bother. There are places where I usually do follow your philosophy of 'just walk away' for example: websites that don't display basic content without javascript or need you to disable ad-blockers. 9.8 times out of 10, I'll just click away because I really just don't care that much. Everyone has their own tolerances for putting up with broken things. Mine my just be higher than most in some areas but they are defiantly lower in others.

criddell 6y ago

> creator doesn't want you to watch or listen to something, you shouldn't watch or listen to it Their goal is to reduce infringement on their copyright. Rightsholders generally offer plenty of ways to watch or listen to the work in a non-infringing way.