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I don't think we will have the political will to stop climate change. The same misinformation strategy that is blocking effect coronavirus control comes from th

I don't think we will have the political will to stop climate change. The same misinformation strategy that is blocking effect coronavirus control comes from the climate change denialist playbook. There is probably going to be mass migration and conflict in the near future. Prepare yourself and your families.

politelemon 6y ago
Future generations will look at the effects and consequences of this rampant misinformation, in the same way we look at the "backwards" nature of people just 100 years ago. Wondering how we could be so stupid and allow this to happen.
- adrianN 6y ago
  You're optimistic then. The way it looks like right now it seems more probable to me that future generations won't have access to this information because they'll be busy with subsistence farming in a devastated ecosystem.
perfunctory 6y ago
> There is probably going to be mass migration and conflict in the near future. Prepare yourself and your families. It will be ugly and brutal and painful. And there is no way to prepare for it. How do you prepare for a civilization collapse? The best way to prepare is to try to master some political will now to stop/mitigate climate change.
- imtringued 6y ago
  >How do you prepare for a civilization collapse? A large part of civilization will collapse but not all of it. Dense or poor populations will have a harder time than rich ones. If you want to be selfish then you can simply move to a safe location and pull up the ladder by preventing further migration through military force.
  - perfunctory 6y ago
    Depends what we call a civilisation collapse. It doesn't have to be a complete annihilation. It can mean the rise of tyranny and demise of democracy. In that sense I don't think there will be any safe location in the world.
LordDragonfang 6y ago
>mass migration and conflict in the near future Don't worry, the conservative playbook has sections about those, too!
altreason 6y ago
We are asked to submit to control, without evidence said control has any short or long term effectiveness. Pretty obvious in the case of coronavirus. It's an endemic exponentially growing phenomenon. There is no way to avoid being infected within a few years timeframe. All we can hope is to mitigate the severity of the impact. Survive the disease. What the control people sell is a pie in the sky 'we can eradicate it via vaccines' in some nebulous future. This is wildly unproven, we have never eradicated such a virus at planet scale. Its exponential growth behavior is a good indication that we never will. As of climate change, there is no solution either. We've stumbled over a nutrient rich carcass, we've multiplied like crazy, and now the party is over. Populations will crash to reach the historical equilibrium, perhaps even further. You are correct, there is massive war and destruction on the horizon. Learn to build walls, and pray they hold.

politelemon 6y ago

Future generations will look at the effects and consequences of this rampant misinformation, in the same way we look at the "backwards" nature of people just 100 years ago. Wondering how we could be so stupid and allow this to happen.

adrianN 6y ago
You're optimistic then. The way it looks like right now it seems more probable to me that future generations won't have access to this information because they'll be busy with subsistence farming in a devastated ecosystem.

perfunctory 6y ago

> There is probably going to be mass migration and conflict in the near future. Prepare yourself and your families. It will be ugly and brutal and painful. And there is no way to prepare for it. How do you prepare for a civilization collapse? The best way to prepare is to try to master some political will now to stop/mitigate climate change.

imtringued 6y ago
>How do you prepare for a civilization collapse? A large part of civilization will collapse but not all of it. Dense or poor populations will have a harder time than rich ones. If you want to be selfish then you can simply move to a safe location and pull up the ladder by preventing further migration through military force.
- perfunctory 6y ago
  Depends what we call a civilisation collapse. It doesn't have to be a complete annihilation. It can mean the rise of tyranny and demise of democracy. In that sense I don't think there will be any safe location in the world.

LordDragonfang 6y ago

>mass migration and conflict in the near future Don't worry, the conservative playbook has sections about those, too!

altreason 6y ago

We are asked to submit to control, without evidence said control has any short or long term effectiveness. Pretty obvious in the case of coronavirus. It's an endemic exponentially growing phenomenon. There is no way to avoid being infected within a few years timeframe. All we can hope is to mitigate the severity of the impact. Survive the disease. What the control people sell is a pie in the sky 'we can eradicate it via vaccines' in some nebulous future. This is wildly unproven, we have never eradicated such a virus at planet scale. Its exponential growth behavior is a good indication that we never will. As of climate change, there is no solution either. We've stumbled over a nutrient rich carcass, we've multiplied like crazy, and now the party is over. Populations will crash to reach the historical equilibrium, perhaps even further. You are correct, there is massive war and destruction on the horizon. Learn to build walls, and pray they hold.