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> It worked out, even though it wasn't ideal. And when the laws finally reign in the rapacious landlords, we will have plenty of charging at apartments too. Th

> It worked out, even though it wasn't ideal. And when the laws finally reign in the rapacious landlords, we will have plenty of charging at apartments too. That's cool if you live in apartment buildings with designated parking. I don't. I live in a place with only street parking (don't give me the "charge at work" thing - street parking there too). As evident by how many cars are on the street at any given time, you can bet that that population is very sizeable.

Dylan16807 6y ago
Chargers can be installed on the street, much like parking meters.
- bradlys 6y ago
  > Chargers can be installed on the street, much like parking meters. Yes, because they're going to install chargers where parking meters never existed. As if.
  - Dylan16807 6y ago
    They're installed for entirely different reasons, so I'm not sure why you'd use the nonexistence of one to argue they wouldn't install the other.
    - bradlys 6y ago
      > They're installed for entirely different reasons, so I'm not sure why you'd use the nonexistence of one to argue they wouldn't install the other. Do you expect chargers to be all over the sidewalks in residential neighborhoods? That's where a lot of people park and I don't see it happening. It'd be such an eyesore.
      - Dylan16807 6y ago
        In dense areas where people have to park on the street? Yeah, it would make sense. And compared to the huge cars all over, I expect it'll look fine.
        bradlys 6y ago
        Just curious - where would chargers go on a street like this where I live? https://goo.gl/maps/SUkDqmrUrDnVWVuXA https://goo.gl/maps/SUkDqmrUrDnVWVuXA I don't see it happening. The sidewalks are too narrow. It would require a massive investment.
        Dylan16807 6y ago
        Okay, those particular sidewalks would be a problem... in your shot jam-packed full of garages? Even if your particular situation is only street parking, that doesn't look like the norm. So that's fine. If most but not all places can have a charger, and not every person needs a home charger, then it just becomes one factor out of many for choosing a place to live. > It would require a massive investment. Compared to the cost of all the cars people buy every decade it's not terribly much.
        epistasis 6y ago
        There are driveways everywhere there. People will put them accessible to the driveways, from the garage. In normal parts of the world, people would actually be parking inside of their garages rather than using them as storage space or living space, as happens in the Bay Area. But as somebody who also lives in a Bay Area suburban hell that is trying desperately to pretend it can get by with bad planning of suburban sprawl, this are is not a problem at all. People in my neighborhood work around that just fine! I see many electric cars on my street, mostly charging close to the house. Some people run wires to the sidewalk for curbside charging, but not many. The harder areas are places like SF where there's even more limited driveway access. That's where streetlights come in. If your neighborhood isn't dense enough to have streetlight, no problem. Edit: one key piece to charging from a garage 220V outlet is that you don't need to charge every single day. Charging every other day or every four days is just fine. So if you have 4 single people living in a 4 bedroom house, each with cars, that's just enough to get by in one charger.

Dylan16807 6y ago

Chargers can be installed on the street, much like parking meters.

bradlys 6y ago
> Chargers can be installed on the street, much like parking meters. Yes, because they're going to install chargers where parking meters never existed. As if.
- Dylan16807 6y ago
  They're installed for entirely different reasons, so I'm not sure why you'd use the nonexistence of one to argue they wouldn't install the other.
  - bradlys 6y ago
    > They're installed for entirely different reasons, so I'm not sure why you'd use the nonexistence of one to argue they wouldn't install the other. Do you expect chargers to be all over the sidewalks in residential neighborhoods? That's where a lot of people park and I don't see it happening. It'd be such an eyesore.
    - Dylan16807 6y ago
      In dense areas where people have to park on the street? Yeah, it would make sense. And compared to the huge cars all over, I expect it'll look fine.
      - bradlys 6y ago
        Just curious - where would chargers go on a street like this where I live? https://goo.gl/maps/SUkDqmrUrDnVWVuXA https://goo.gl/maps/SUkDqmrUrDnVWVuXA I don't see it happening. The sidewalks are too narrow. It would require a massive investment.
        Dylan16807 6y ago
        Okay, those particular sidewalks would be a problem... in your shot jam-packed full of garages? Even if your particular situation is only street parking, that doesn't look like the norm. So that's fine. If most but not all places can have a charger, and not every person needs a home charger, then it just becomes one factor out of many for choosing a place to live. > It would require a massive investment. Compared to the cost of all the cars people buy every decade it's not terribly much.
        epistasis 6y ago
        There are driveways everywhere there. People will put them accessible to the driveways, from the garage. In normal parts of the world, people would actually be parking inside of their garages rather than using them as storage space or living space, as happens in the Bay Area. But as somebody who also lives in a Bay Area suburban hell that is trying desperately to pretend it can get by with bad planning of suburban sprawl, this are is not a problem at all. People in my neighborhood work around that just fine! I see many electric cars on my street, mostly charging close to the house. Some people run wires to the sidewalk for curbside charging, but not many. The harder areas are places like SF where there's even more limited driveway access. That's where streetlights come in. If your neighborhood isn't dense enough to have streetlight, no problem. Edit: one key piece to charging from a garage 220V outlet is that you don't need to charge every single day. Charging every other day or every four days is just fine. So if you have 4 single people living in a 4 bedroom house, each with cars, that's just enough to get by in one charger.