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> macOS is my favorite OS, but the shit I put up with... Idk, the several Linux distros I’ve used recently, and Windows, have a much longer list of “shit _I_ p

> macOS is my favorite OS, but the shit I put up with... Idk, the several Linux distros I’ve used recently, and Windows, have a much longer list of “shit _I_ put up with”

GordonS 6y ago
Can you really think of a single thing worse than this?
- jimmydorry 6y ago
  Computer failing to turn on as a buggy, mandatory update has replaced broken or replaced a driver with a non-functional one.
  - GordonS 6y ago
    Fair enough, but that's not a typical experience on either Windows or Linux in this decade - if that's happened to you, then I think you've just been incredibly unlucky.
    - HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
      It happens with forced win10 updates.
      - ratsmack 6y ago
        Albeit rarely, and with the diversity of commodity hardware out there, I would say that Microsoft has done pretty well with updates. (P.S. I despise Windows from a technical standpoint though)
        HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
        It shouldn't be their business.
        GordonS 6y ago
        > with the diversity of commodity hardware out there, I would say that Microsoft has done pretty well with updates This is a good point actually - with their walled garden approach, Apple has a much easier job with drivers than Windows or Linux have. Of course, the end user may not care a jot, but it's an interesting point from a technical perspective.
      - DarkmSparks 6y ago
        It happened to me pretty much every other forced windows update, from broken graphics drivers to non functional start menu. I just replaced that pos with a mac mini.... I use centos 7 for my daily driver, it'll get 8 on it next hardware upgrade. Touch wood not a single problem with that for years now, and amd5000/nv3000 are looking very tasty.
    - martimarkov 6y ago
      Nope, there have been a few issues with BSOD that have impacted quite a lot of people. The latest one was with nvidia drivers being old that caused BSOD after update. In a previous company the IT dept had to revert a forced by MS update manually on each machine by “hacking” and deleting and replacing files as it was causing BSOD.
    - Osiris 6y ago
      Disagree with Linux. I make an LVM snapshot before making any attempts to upgrade the graphics driver. It's a disaster. And don't say proprietary code, that's beside the point. Windows runs drivers in a way that one that crashes can be restarted without bringing down the kernel or the whole system.
      - simias 6y ago
        FYI I've had the issue you describe half a dozen times with CentOS but literally never with Arch Linux (on both machines with similar nVidia cards, using the proprietary driver). In general I'm pretty impressed with Arch's package quality, I seldom encounter any issue and when I do it's patched very quickly.
        Osiris 6y ago
        I tried Arch Linux in a dual boot scenario on this System76 laptop and I don't recall why I switched back... I think it's because I tried to upgrade the graphics driver and got into state where I couldn't get X to run at all. A co-worker keeps telling me to try Manjaro. I'm just not sure if I want to spend a weekend reinstalling all the stuff I use.
        188201 6y ago
        Very true. I have used Ubuntu and Fedora for a while, but when I switched to Arch, I never go back. Arch is described as bleeding edge, but another way to put it is it always has latest software, which is what a dev machine should be. My experience with installing Nvidia driver in ubuntu is nightmare. Tried official repo then failed, and tried different ppa and then failed again and again. At last, I found that I have an older kernel version and I need to compiled a latest kernel which is not in official ubuntu repo. I gave up at this point because I don't want to compile kernel every time I need to upgrade. With Arch, you always get the latest kernel and you won't usually missing feature from using an old LTS kernel.
      - dahfizz 6y ago
        My windows box has crashed over a dozen times in the past few years because of GPU driver issues with nvidia and amd
    - voidmain0001 6y ago
      On the other hand I was gifted a 2015 MacBook Pro 15 and I can't run away screaming fast enough from it. I know people rave about the touch pad, but when I use it I find apps get minimized, or don't launch or some other weird gesture causing behavior. I guarantee that this is classic PEBKAC. The other day a family member with a MacBook Pro asked me to assist them with Safari which on launch wouldn't appear. I was able to get it to appear by using the Finder or something which allowed me to pin/size Safari to one side of the screen, but on appearing the window simply displayed a single pixel frame with a black interior. I liked the process, launched it again but it did the same thing. I told them they would have more success with Google than me. I have never had those experiences with Windows. Yes I've had other lame experiences, but I can always solve them, it at least find a solution online. Again probably PEBCAK so no fan boy retorts please. In the end all programs and operating systems suck.
      - mindri0t 6y ago
        I’m personally quite a big fan of the trackpad and gestures but I understand that they take some getting used to. If they are causing you frustration then you can turn them off under system preferences > trackpad in the “scroll and zoom” and “more gestures” sections. I’d recommend keeping most of the scroll ones and disabling most of the others, then one by one turning on any of the ones you think would be most useful as you get more used to them. As for the Safari issue, I have no idea off the top of my head.
      - GordonS 6y ago
        I have to say I also don't understand all the fanfare for the MBP trackpad. I have a 13" 2016 MBP, and I actively dislike the trackpad. You need to use far too much pressure to "click" (even when the resistance at the lowest setting), and there is something "off" about the mouse pointer tracking - I can't figure out what it is, like if it feels too smooth, too jerky, I don't know, but it feels wrong somehow. Oh, I do like the gesture support, though even Windows 10 supports gestures nowadays.
        whynaut 6y ago
        I think you can enable tap to click
    - quantummkv 6y ago
      I believe you must have been using Windows 7 without updates for the decade, because with windows 10 every[1] update[2] borks the system so much that Microsoft had to pull updates. And last but not the least, a big guide to fix problems caused by a forced, mandatory windows update[3] [1] https://www.techradar.com/in/news/microsoft-kills-off-windows-10-update-that-had-been-slowing-down-pcs https://www.techradar.com/in/news/microsoft-kills-off-window... [2] https://www.techradar.com/news/dont-install-this-windows-10-update-microsoft-just-pushed-out https://www.techradar.com/news/dont-install-this-windows-10-... [3] https://www.techradar.com/in/how-to/windows-10-may-2020-update-problems-how-to-fix-them https://www.techradar.com/in/how-to/windows-10-may-2020-upda... Meanwhile on Linux, I cannot upgrade to the new kernel that contains a lot of support and fixes for my new shiny AMD Ryzen chip because it completely breaks the Nvidia driver, refusing even to boot. Apple may suck, but it still sucks less than the alternatives
      - rvz 6y ago
        > Meanwhile on Linux, I cannot upgrade to the new kernel that contains a lot of support and fixes for my new shiny AMD Ryzen chip because it completely breaks the Nvidia driver, refusing even to boot. Well that's the problem with Linux distros for the desktop in general. A user upgrading a newer version of a single system component risks breaking the whole desktop: systemd, libdrm, x11, whatever and something else doesn't work. I'm even excluding drivers here but again it's clear what happens when a user finds that out for themselves on Linux. If they even have the time and energy to do all that digging and googling of cryptic errors. To save yourself the time and frustration, Just keep using Windows 10 with WSL2. I don't have any reason to dual boot to a Linux desktop any more due to this.
      - GordonS 6y ago
        And I believe you must not have been using Windows, and are relying too much of news of incidents affecting small numbers of people. It is - quite clearly - a gross exaggeration that "every update borks the system". Aside from MacOS, I use Windows 10, and have done for several years. I have the Microsoft Action Pack, which means I get multiple Windows 10 Enterprise licenses - and no forced updates.
    - pjmlp 6y ago
      If by this decade you mean 2010 - 2020, I have enough Linux examples.
      - GordonS 6y ago
        I presume you mean desktop Linux - I admit haven't tried a desktop edition Linux in this decade, so I might me off there.
        pjmlp 6y ago
        Desktop Linux on an Asus laptop officially sold with Ubuntu on it.
    - NegativeLatency 6y ago
      Happened to me with a stock install of ubuntu after an update about 9 months ago.
- mekster 6y ago
  - Eternal maze of control panel that's now split into two. - Lack of little useful apps in the $10 range. Windows seems either freeware or costly bloatware. macOS' problem is fixable but OS being worse isn't something you can wait to get fixed quickly.
- GeekyBear 6y ago
  Why wouldn't Windows update deleting the user's files be worse?
  - GordonS 6y ago
    That might have happened for a small number of users, but it was an isolated incident, not a "feature" pushed to every Windows user.
    - GeekyBear 6y ago
      That has happened for the last three years in a row.
- deleted 6y ago
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- young_unixer 6y ago
  When there's filesystem corruption on boot, Ubuntu throws you into an (initramfs) shell and tells you to fsck manually.
  - blackoil 6y ago
    Is it better than a message to take it to service center?
    - fnord123 6y ago
      Depends on what technical level you have, how much time you have, and what's on your storage device.
- Thorrez 6y ago
  My Lenovo Windows laptop came installed with malware that MITMed all my https connections and also allowed anyone else to MITM all my https connections. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfish#Lenovo_security_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfish#Lenovo_security_inci...
  - GordonS 6y ago
    That's terrible, but it's not the fault of the OS vendor; presumably such a malware could be distributed with any OS.
    - pilsetnieks 6y ago
      Ironically, it couldn't be with macOS, which this whole thread is about avoiding.
      - ric2b 6y ago
        It certainly could if Apple wanted to do the same thing that Lenovo did.
      - Thorrez 6y ago
        Would MacOS actually have prevented it? Would Superfish just have simply signed the binary? Sure it wouldn't have started up when the Apple servers are down, but that's a very small percent of the time.
Yetanfou 6y ago
Well, you're using the wrong distributions then. Use something stodgy but solid like stable Debian or a recent but not bleeding edge version of Mint and you should not have all too many things on your shit list. It won't be empty - printing will still trip you up every now and then, just like it does everywhere else to give an example - but it will mostly ' just work' unless you're trying to install it on truly exotic (as in "released this week") hardware. The overall facepalm experience will be comparable to that on Mac OS, better than that on Windows. Add to that the fact that it is free in every sense of the word as well as the glaring and welcome absence of draconic "features" like the one discussed in this thread and those Linux distributions will start to look very tempting.
- HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
  Debian has abysmal hardware support( well gpus mostly). They need to do something about their kernels, my RX5700XT is miles ahead with the current kernel compared to whatever debian 10 ships.
  - jasonjayr 6y ago
    Debian's default position is to only ship "free software" (OSS, libre, etc). It is my understanding that a lot of modern GPUs that are cutting edge ship with non-oss binary blobs, which goes against Debian's core principals. Unfortunately, it means that Debian has poor support for hardware vendors that mandate these binary blobs.
    - MegaDeKay 6y ago
      Neither AMD graphics nor Intel integrated graphics require a blob. nVidia is the only one of the big three that requires a blob for full performance.
      - tremon 6y ago
        AMD graphics require a firmware blob for all modern cards [0]. It used to be that the firmware was only needed for 3D acceleration and you could run X/text mode without the blob just fine, but that hasn't been true for years (I think since HD6000 series in 2010). [0] https://packages.debian.org/buster/firmware-amd-graphics https://packages.debian.org/buster/firmware-amd-graphics
morty_s 6y ago
> Windows, have a much longer list of “shit _I_ put up with” Yikes. This is painfully true. Maybe Apple knows they have a ton of breathing room here. I’ll jump through a few more hoops to continue using the machines they make. Then again all I do is edit text.
JKCalhoun 6y ago
Perhaps the issue is, it didn't used to be like this.
tomxor 6y ago
The thing you get with Linux is "more _predictable_ shit to deal with", not "less shit to deal with", no large capable desktop OS is perfect and never will be. Anxiety from what Apple's agenda will do to your computer next update? anxiety from if a 1hr windows update is awaiting you when you turn your pc on? ... Linux awaits.
- mrmonkeyman 6y ago
  Just don't update anything.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  Linux awaits and then when it comes it borks WLAN driver, because canonical decided to replace a perfectly working one with WIP FOSS alternative, forcing users to switch to cable LAN until it reached feature parity. Linux awaits and then when it comes it borks AMD driver, because AMD decided not to support older cards on the new FOSS driver, and the old perfectly working driver is not compatible with modern kernels, driver ABI be dammed. Linux awaits and then when it comes it breaks hard disk encryption forcing a full install, and feeling lucky that I actually backup /home regurlarly. Linux awaits and then when it comes half of the stuff doesn't work in Wayland. Eventually I rather just deal with macOS, Windows, Android and leave Linux just for the kernel itself.
  - dvdkon 6y ago
    I haven't had to deal with any of that, but I've had Windows straight up refuse to boot multiple times and the only fix I found was to reinstall. I've now had to advise multiple people who couldn't turn on their WiFi in Windows (the switch just did nothing). I also couldn't fix that without a reinstall (not for a lack of trying). My family iMac refuses to import photos from an iPhone into Photos, failing the transfer silently. I have no idea how I'd even go about fixing that besides calling Apple and forcing them to fix it. No man gets to deal with all of the possible computer problems, thankfully. But in my experience, most Linux problems have been fixable and I managed to fix them, while more closed OSs have left me stumped many times. I no longer believe that a computer can work without problems, so my priority is making sure that when problems appear, I can diagnose them and fix them easily.
echelon 6y ago
Linux doesn't force you to sign your binaries or lock you out of devices you own.

> macOS is my favorite OS, but the shit I put up with... Idk, the several Linux distros I’ve used recently, and Windows, have a much longer list of “shit _I_ put up with”

GordonS 6y ago

Can you really think of a single thing worse than this?

jimmydorry 6y ago
Computer failing to turn on as a buggy, mandatory update has replaced broken or replaced a driver with a non-functional one.
- GordonS 6y ago
  Fair enough, but that's not a typical experience on either Windows or Linux in this decade - if that's happened to you, then I think you've just been incredibly unlucky.
  - HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
    It happens with forced win10 updates.
    - ratsmack 6y ago
      Albeit rarely, and with the diversity of commodity hardware out there, I would say that Microsoft has done pretty well with updates. (P.S. I despise Windows from a technical standpoint though)
      - HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
        It shouldn't be their business.
      - GordonS 6y ago
        > with the diversity of commodity hardware out there, I would say that Microsoft has done pretty well with updates This is a good point actually - with their walled garden approach, Apple has a much easier job with drivers than Windows or Linux have. Of course, the end user may not care a jot, but it's an interesting point from a technical perspective.
    - DarkmSparks 6y ago
      It happened to me pretty much every other forced windows update, from broken graphics drivers to non functional start menu. I just replaced that pos with a mac mini.... I use centos 7 for my daily driver, it'll get 8 on it next hardware upgrade. Touch wood not a single problem with that for years now, and amd5000/nv3000 are looking very tasty.
  - martimarkov 6y ago
    Nope, there have been a few issues with BSOD that have impacted quite a lot of people. The latest one was with nvidia drivers being old that caused BSOD after update. In a previous company the IT dept had to revert a forced by MS update manually on each machine by “hacking” and deleting and replacing files as it was causing BSOD.
  - Osiris 6y ago
    Disagree with Linux. I make an LVM snapshot before making any attempts to upgrade the graphics driver. It's a disaster. And don't say proprietary code, that's beside the point. Windows runs drivers in a way that one that crashes can be restarted without bringing down the kernel or the whole system.
    - simias 6y ago
      FYI I've had the issue you describe half a dozen times with CentOS but literally never with Arch Linux (on both machines with similar nVidia cards, using the proprietary driver). In general I'm pretty impressed with Arch's package quality, I seldom encounter any issue and when I do it's patched very quickly.
      - Osiris 6y ago
        I tried Arch Linux in a dual boot scenario on this System76 laptop and I don't recall why I switched back... I think it's because I tried to upgrade the graphics driver and got into state where I couldn't get X to run at all. A co-worker keeps telling me to try Manjaro. I'm just not sure if I want to spend a weekend reinstalling all the stuff I use.
      - 188201 6y ago
        Very true. I have used Ubuntu and Fedora for a while, but when I switched to Arch, I never go back. Arch is described as bleeding edge, but another way to put it is it always has latest software, which is what a dev machine should be. My experience with installing Nvidia driver in ubuntu is nightmare. Tried official repo then failed, and tried different ppa and then failed again and again. At last, I found that I have an older kernel version and I need to compiled a latest kernel which is not in official ubuntu repo. I gave up at this point because I don't want to compile kernel every time I need to upgrade. With Arch, you always get the latest kernel and you won't usually missing feature from using an old LTS kernel.
    - dahfizz 6y ago
      My windows box has crashed over a dozen times in the past few years because of GPU driver issues with nvidia and amd
  - voidmain0001 6y ago
    On the other hand I was gifted a 2015 MacBook Pro 15 and I can't run away screaming fast enough from it. I know people rave about the touch pad, but when I use it I find apps get minimized, or don't launch or some other weird gesture causing behavior. I guarantee that this is classic PEBKAC. The other day a family member with a MacBook Pro asked me to assist them with Safari which on launch wouldn't appear. I was able to get it to appear by using the Finder or something which allowed me to pin/size Safari to one side of the screen, but on appearing the window simply displayed a single pixel frame with a black interior. I liked the process, launched it again but it did the same thing. I told them they would have more success with Google than me. I have never had those experiences with Windows. Yes I've had other lame experiences, but I can always solve them, it at least find a solution online. Again probably PEBCAK so no fan boy retorts please. In the end all programs and operating systems suck.
    - mindri0t 6y ago
      I’m personally quite a big fan of the trackpad and gestures but I understand that they take some getting used to. If they are causing you frustration then you can turn them off under system preferences > trackpad in the “scroll and zoom” and “more gestures” sections. I’d recommend keeping most of the scroll ones and disabling most of the others, then one by one turning on any of the ones you think would be most useful as you get more used to them. As for the Safari issue, I have no idea off the top of my head.
    - GordonS 6y ago
      I have to say I also don't understand all the fanfare for the MBP trackpad. I have a 13" 2016 MBP, and I actively dislike the trackpad. You need to use far too much pressure to "click" (even when the resistance at the lowest setting), and there is something "off" about the mouse pointer tracking - I can't figure out what it is, like if it feels too smooth, too jerky, I don't know, but it feels wrong somehow. Oh, I do like the gesture support, though even Windows 10 supports gestures nowadays.
      - whynaut 6y ago
        I think you can enable tap to click
  - quantummkv 6y ago
    I believe you must have been using Windows 7 without updates for the decade, because with windows 10 every[1] update[2] borks the system so much that Microsoft had to pull updates. And last but not the least, a big guide to fix problems caused by a forced, mandatory windows update[3] [1] https://www.techradar.com/in/news/microsoft-kills-off-windows-10-update-that-had-been-slowing-down-pcs https://www.techradar.com/in/news/microsoft-kills-off-window... [2] https://www.techradar.com/news/dont-install-this-windows-10-update-microsoft-just-pushed-out https://www.techradar.com/news/dont-install-this-windows-10-... [3] https://www.techradar.com/in/how-to/windows-10-may-2020-update-problems-how-to-fix-them https://www.techradar.com/in/how-to/windows-10-may-2020-upda... Meanwhile on Linux, I cannot upgrade to the new kernel that contains a lot of support and fixes for my new shiny AMD Ryzen chip because it completely breaks the Nvidia driver, refusing even to boot. Apple may suck, but it still sucks less than the alternatives
    - rvz 6y ago
      > Meanwhile on Linux, I cannot upgrade to the new kernel that contains a lot of support and fixes for my new shiny AMD Ryzen chip because it completely breaks the Nvidia driver, refusing even to boot. Well that's the problem with Linux distros for the desktop in general. A user upgrading a newer version of a single system component risks breaking the whole desktop: systemd, libdrm, x11, whatever and something else doesn't work. I'm even excluding drivers here but again it's clear what happens when a user finds that out for themselves on Linux. If they even have the time and energy to do all that digging and googling of cryptic errors. To save yourself the time and frustration, Just keep using Windows 10 with WSL2. I don't have any reason to dual boot to a Linux desktop any more due to this.
    - GordonS 6y ago
      And I believe you must not have been using Windows, and are relying too much of news of incidents affecting small numbers of people. It is - quite clearly - a gross exaggeration that "every update borks the system". Aside from MacOS, I use Windows 10, and have done for several years. I have the Microsoft Action Pack, which means I get multiple Windows 10 Enterprise licenses - and no forced updates.
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    If by this decade you mean 2010 - 2020, I have enough Linux examples.
    - GordonS 6y ago
      I presume you mean desktop Linux - I admit haven't tried a desktop edition Linux in this decade, so I might me off there.
      - pjmlp 6y ago
        Desktop Linux on an Asus laptop officially sold with Ubuntu on it.
  - NegativeLatency 6y ago
    Happened to me with a stock install of ubuntu after an update about 9 months ago.
mekster 6y ago
- Eternal maze of control panel that's now split into two. - Lack of little useful apps in the $10 range. Windows seems either freeware or costly bloatware. macOS' problem is fixable but OS being worse isn't something you can wait to get fixed quickly.
GeekyBear 6y ago
Why wouldn't Windows update deleting the user's files be worse?
- GordonS 6y ago
  That might have happened for a small number of users, but it was an isolated incident, not a "feature" pushed to every Windows user.
  - GeekyBear 6y ago
    That has happened for the last three years in a row.
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young_unixer 6y ago
When there's filesystem corruption on boot, Ubuntu throws you into an (initramfs) shell and tells you to fsck manually.
- blackoil 6y ago
  Is it better than a message to take it to service center?
  - fnord123 6y ago
    Depends on what technical level you have, how much time you have, and what's on your storage device.
Thorrez 6y ago
My Lenovo Windows laptop came installed with malware that MITMed all my https connections and also allowed anyone else to MITM all my https connections. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfish#Lenovo_security_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfish#Lenovo_security_inci...
- GordonS 6y ago
  That's terrible, but it's not the fault of the OS vendor; presumably such a malware could be distributed with any OS.
  - pilsetnieks 6y ago
    Ironically, it couldn't be with macOS, which this whole thread is about avoiding.
    - ric2b 6y ago
      It certainly could if Apple wanted to do the same thing that Lenovo did.
    - Thorrez 6y ago
      Would MacOS actually have prevented it? Would Superfish just have simply signed the binary? Sure it wouldn't have started up when the Apple servers are down, but that's a very small percent of the time.

Yetanfou 6y ago

Well, you're using the wrong distributions then. Use something stodgy but solid like stable Debian or a recent but not bleeding edge version of Mint and you should not have all too many things on your shit list. It won't be empty - printing will still trip you up every now and then, just like it does everywhere else to give an example - but it will mostly ' just work' unless you're trying to install it on truly exotic (as in "released this week") hardware. The overall facepalm experience will be comparable to that on Mac OS, better than that on Windows. Add to that the fact that it is free in every sense of the word as well as the glaring and welcome absence of draconic "features" like the one discussed in this thread and those Linux distributions will start to look very tempting.

HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
Debian has abysmal hardware support( well gpus mostly). They need to do something about their kernels, my RX5700XT is miles ahead with the current kernel compared to whatever debian 10 ships.
- jasonjayr 6y ago
  Debian's default position is to only ship "free software" (OSS, libre, etc). It is my understanding that a lot of modern GPUs that are cutting edge ship with non-oss binary blobs, which goes against Debian's core principals. Unfortunately, it means that Debian has poor support for hardware vendors that mandate these binary blobs.
  - MegaDeKay 6y ago
    Neither AMD graphics nor Intel integrated graphics require a blob. nVidia is the only one of the big three that requires a blob for full performance.
    - tremon 6y ago
      AMD graphics require a firmware blob for all modern cards [0]. It used to be that the firmware was only needed for 3D acceleration and you could run X/text mode without the blob just fine, but that hasn't been true for years (I think since HD6000 series in 2010). [0] https://packages.debian.org/buster/firmware-amd-graphics https://packages.debian.org/buster/firmware-amd-graphics

morty_s 6y ago

> Windows, have a much longer list of “shit _I_ put up with” Yikes. This is painfully true. Maybe Apple knows they have a ton of breathing room here. I’ll jump through a few more hoops to continue using the machines they make. Then again all I do is edit text.

JKCalhoun 6y ago

Perhaps the issue is, it didn't used to be like this.

tomxor 6y ago

The thing you get with Linux is "more _predictable_ shit to deal with", not "less shit to deal with", no large capable desktop OS is perfect and never will be. Anxiety from what Apple's agenda will do to your computer next update? anxiety from if a 1hr windows update is awaiting you when you turn your pc on? ... Linux awaits.

mrmonkeyman 6y ago
Just don't update anything.
pjmlp 6y ago
Linux awaits and then when it comes it borks WLAN driver, because canonical decided to replace a perfectly working one with WIP FOSS alternative, forcing users to switch to cable LAN until it reached feature parity. Linux awaits and then when it comes it borks AMD driver, because AMD decided not to support older cards on the new FOSS driver, and the old perfectly working driver is not compatible with modern kernels, driver ABI be dammed. Linux awaits and then when it comes it breaks hard disk encryption forcing a full install, and feeling lucky that I actually backup /home regurlarly. Linux awaits and then when it comes half of the stuff doesn't work in Wayland. Eventually I rather just deal with macOS, Windows, Android and leave Linux just for the kernel itself.
- dvdkon 6y ago
  I haven't had to deal with any of that, but I've had Windows straight up refuse to boot multiple times and the only fix I found was to reinstall. I've now had to advise multiple people who couldn't turn on their WiFi in Windows (the switch just did nothing). I also couldn't fix that without a reinstall (not for a lack of trying). My family iMac refuses to import photos from an iPhone into Photos, failing the transfer silently. I have no idea how I'd even go about fixing that besides calling Apple and forcing them to fix it. No man gets to deal with all of the possible computer problems, thankfully. But in my experience, most Linux problems have been fixable and I managed to fix them, while more closed OSs have left me stumped many times. I no longer believe that a computer can work without problems, so my priority is making sure that when problems appear, I can diagnose them and fix them easily.

echelon 6y ago

Linux doesn't force you to sign your binaries or lock you out of devices you own.