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Conclusion: exercise because is good for your health. What I wish I'll do: Take above advice. What I will do actually: file this and never open it again.

meigwilym 6y ago
10 minutes of walking every day can make a significant difference, and does not require much will power. But it's the gateway drug to more exercise.
- pmiller2 6y ago
  And, if you can't make yourself do a 10 minute walk every day, consider getting a dog, if your finances can support it. I walk an average of over an hour a day with my dog, and it's fun, because I have my dog with me. Normally, I probably wouldn't walk that much if I didn't have her.
  - unnouinceput 6y ago
    Finances will support, space is something I lack. I do not agree to raise a dog in a limited apartment, a dog needs his own yard.
    - pmiller2 6y ago
      A lot of shelters and rescue groups feel the same way. But, there are a lot of dogs who will get along just fine in an apartment. One surprising example would be greyhounds. Yes, they are racing dogs, but, they generally are only interested in running for a couple minutes a day. The rest of the time, they're gentle couch potatoes, who make ideal apartment dogs.
      - pbhjpbhj 6y ago
        So, they practice HIIT ...?
        pmiller2 6y ago
        Lol, kind of, I guess. :) You should see how powerful these dogs' legs are when they are in racing shape.
    - adrianN 6y ago
      A dog doesn't need a yard, it needs someone to tire it out every day. A neglected dog in a yard is not significantly happier than a neglected dog in an apartment.
    - Buttons840 6y ago
      The dog that could be living in your apartment is currently in a cage somewhere and will be killed (we say "euthanized") soon. I don't say this to shame you or anyone into getting an animal. My only point is to argue that living in an apartment is not really so bad for an animal. If you're avoiding an animal for your own sanity while living in an apartment, that's fine, I do not fault you for it. If you're avoiding an animal for the animals sake, then I think the animal would prefer an apartment to a cage.
      - pmiller2 6y ago
        That is a very good point I failed to make. Before I adopted my dog, she was sharing a small room of around 100 square feet with another dog, and I don't think she ever got to spend any off leash time outside. Now, she has 10x the space, all to herself, and we go to the park every single day that it's practical to do so. She's undoubtedly happier than she was then; it's obvious just by looking at her. The shelter I adopted from is a no kill shelter, but, keep in mind that "no kill" really means "fixed capacity." If the no kill shelters are full, guess where all the stray animals will go? Here are some sad statistics from a 1997 survey of 1000 animal shelters by the American Humane Society: > In 1997, roughly 64 percent of the total number of animals that entered shelters were euthanized — approximately 2.7 million animals in just these 1,000 shelters. These animals may have been euthanized due to overcrowding, but may also have been sick, aggressive, injured or suffering from something else. > 56 percent of dogs and 71 percent of cats that enter animal shelters are euthanized. More cats are euthanized than dogs because they are more likely to enter a shelter without any owner identification. > Only 15.8 percent of dogs and 2 percent of cats that enter animal shelters are reunited with their owners. 25 percent of dogs and 24 percent of cats that enter animal shelters are adopted. See http://americanhumane.org/fact-sheet/animal-shelter-euthanasia-2/ http://americanhumane.org/fact-sheet/animal-shelter-euthanas... And, as far as anecdata go, when my dog entered the shelter I adopted her from, she was pregnant with 12 puppies that were aborted. While I love puppies, I am glad they did that, for multiple reasons. Most important among them is that when we're destroying millions of animals a year, we don't need 12 more dogs in the shelter. But, secondarily, I am glad they did it, because if she had had the puppies, she would not be leaving that shelter for several weeks, which means I would have had a harder time adopting her. :)
  - brlewis 6y ago
    And if you can't get a dog, play a game like Pokemon Go or Ingress.
    - hackily 6y ago
      Highly recommended. I don't go outside much, but I started pokemon go during covid-19, and it gives me a reason to head outside on a brisk walk to put a pokemon in a gym, or do a raid everyday. They doubled the distance you can reach gyms, so I can stand safely on the other side of the street from the gym and still be able to raid.
- polka_haunts_us 6y ago
  What's the next level up, because I walk 20 minutes a day but apparently my drug tolerance is high.
  - Jtsummers 6y ago
    Start jogging, if your knees and back can take it, and try to keep the same total time (so longer distance). I fixed my distance at the start of my fitness improvement effort (5km) and walked it (40-45 minutes initially), then started running sections until they were longer, and eventually the whole distance. Got my time consistently down to 30 minutes, and for a brief period down to 23-24 minutes.
- NalNezumi 6y ago
  That's the gateway but the real problem is when you start to change habits, schedule and food preferences for maximum excersice effect. Now you are deep in the trench
- kyriakos 6y ago
  I can't understand what kind of lifestyle doesn't allow for a 10 minutes walk. If you do housework for half an hour you probably exercise more than that.
  - pbhjpbhj 6y ago
    It's not the allowance of time, it's the motivation (for me and probably 100s of millions of others??). I was walking 80 minutes a day prior to Covid lockdown, now I'm lucky to do that in a week. Principle change is motivation.
jkhdigital 6y ago
I don’t think you read the article... the conclusions are actually pretty nuanced, and only apply to older (70+) individuals.
- unnouinceput 6y ago
  Your thinking is wrong on this one. I did read it and I got those nuances just the same as you. My conclusion still stands.
pontus 6y ago
To be clear, the study actually does not show any statistically significant effect of exercise on mortality rate compared to the control group (it shows an improvement, it's just not statistically significant). The verbatim conclusion they present is: "This study suggests that combined MICT and HIIT has no effect on all cause mortality compared with recommended physical activity levels. However, we observed a lower all cause mortality trend after HIIT compared with controls and MICT."
- tgb 6y ago
  But also the control group is significantly physically active too.
  - kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
    And the "High impact" is only interval training.
  - zachm0 6y ago
    Yep, from the article: "Control participants chose to perform more of their physical activity as HIIT than the physical activity undertaken by participants in the MICT group. This meant that the controls achieved an exercise dose at an intensity between the MICT and HIIT groups."
asdffdsa 6y ago
Or you can do 5 jumping jacks!
krzat 6y ago
COVID basically forced me to start running (or go insane in home office), and it's been pretty great. For 4 weeks a week you are getting: - improved mental state - protection against covid - free calories to spend on food or weight loss - fresh air - better future health outcomes - time for podcasts - new hobby Overall, I highly recommend trying!

meigwilym 6y ago

10 minutes of walking every day can make a significant difference, and does not require much will power. But it's the gateway drug to more exercise.

pmiller2 6y ago
And, if you can't make yourself do a 10 minute walk every day, consider getting a dog, if your finances can support it. I walk an average of over an hour a day with my dog, and it's fun, because I have my dog with me. Normally, I probably wouldn't walk that much if I didn't have her.
- unnouinceput 6y ago
  Finances will support, space is something I lack. I do not agree to raise a dog in a limited apartment, a dog needs his own yard.
  - pmiller2 6y ago
    A lot of shelters and rescue groups feel the same way. But, there are a lot of dogs who will get along just fine in an apartment. One surprising example would be greyhounds. Yes, they are racing dogs, but, they generally are only interested in running for a couple minutes a day. The rest of the time, they're gentle couch potatoes, who make ideal apartment dogs.
    - pbhjpbhj 6y ago
      So, they practice HIIT ...?
      - pmiller2 6y ago
        Lol, kind of, I guess. :) You should see how powerful these dogs' legs are when they are in racing shape.
  - adrianN 6y ago
    A dog doesn't need a yard, it needs someone to tire it out every day. A neglected dog in a yard is not significantly happier than a neglected dog in an apartment.
  - Buttons840 6y ago
    The dog that could be living in your apartment is currently in a cage somewhere and will be killed (we say "euthanized") soon. I don't say this to shame you or anyone into getting an animal. My only point is to argue that living in an apartment is not really so bad for an animal. If you're avoiding an animal for your own sanity while living in an apartment, that's fine, I do not fault you for it. If you're avoiding an animal for the animals sake, then I think the animal would prefer an apartment to a cage.
    - pmiller2 6y ago
      That is a very good point I failed to make. Before I adopted my dog, she was sharing a small room of around 100 square feet with another dog, and I don't think she ever got to spend any off leash time outside. Now, she has 10x the space, all to herself, and we go to the park every single day that it's practical to do so. She's undoubtedly happier than she was then; it's obvious just by looking at her. The shelter I adopted from is a no kill shelter, but, keep in mind that "no kill" really means "fixed capacity." If the no kill shelters are full, guess where all the stray animals will go? Here are some sad statistics from a 1997 survey of 1000 animal shelters by the American Humane Society: > In 1997, roughly 64 percent of the total number of animals that entered shelters were euthanized — approximately 2.7 million animals in just these 1,000 shelters. These animals may have been euthanized due to overcrowding, but may also have been sick, aggressive, injured or suffering from something else. > 56 percent of dogs and 71 percent of cats that enter animal shelters are euthanized. More cats are euthanized than dogs because they are more likely to enter a shelter without any owner identification. > Only 15.8 percent of dogs and 2 percent of cats that enter animal shelters are reunited with their owners. 25 percent of dogs and 24 percent of cats that enter animal shelters are adopted. See http://americanhumane.org/fact-sheet/animal-shelter-euthanasia-2/ http://americanhumane.org/fact-sheet/animal-shelter-euthanas... And, as far as anecdata go, when my dog entered the shelter I adopted her from, she was pregnant with 12 puppies that were aborted. While I love puppies, I am glad they did that, for multiple reasons. Most important among them is that when we're destroying millions of animals a year, we don't need 12 more dogs in the shelter. But, secondarily, I am glad they did it, because if she had had the puppies, she would not be leaving that shelter for several weeks, which means I would have had a harder time adopting her. :)
- brlewis 6y ago
  And if you can't get a dog, play a game like Pokemon Go or Ingress.
  - hackily 6y ago
    Highly recommended. I don't go outside much, but I started pokemon go during covid-19, and it gives me a reason to head outside on a brisk walk to put a pokemon in a gym, or do a raid everyday. They doubled the distance you can reach gyms, so I can stand safely on the other side of the street from the gym and still be able to raid.
polka_haunts_us 6y ago
What's the next level up, because I walk 20 minutes a day but apparently my drug tolerance is high.
- Jtsummers 6y ago
  Start jogging, if your knees and back can take it, and try to keep the same total time (so longer distance). I fixed my distance at the start of my fitness improvement effort (5km) and walked it (40-45 minutes initially), then started running sections until they were longer, and eventually the whole distance. Got my time consistently down to 30 minutes, and for a brief period down to 23-24 minutes.
NalNezumi 6y ago
That's the gateway but the real problem is when you start to change habits, schedule and food preferences for maximum excersice effect. Now you are deep in the trench
kyriakos 6y ago
I can't understand what kind of lifestyle doesn't allow for a 10 minutes walk. If you do housework for half an hour you probably exercise more than that.
- pbhjpbhj 6y ago
  It's not the allowance of time, it's the motivation (for me and probably 100s of millions of others??). I was walking 80 minutes a day prior to Covid lockdown, now I'm lucky to do that in a week. Principle change is motivation.

jkhdigital 6y ago

I don’t think you read the article... the conclusions are actually pretty nuanced, and only apply to older (70+) individuals.

unnouinceput 6y ago
Your thinking is wrong on this one. I did read it and I got those nuances just the same as you. My conclusion still stands.

pontus 6y ago

To be clear, the study actually does not show any statistically significant effect of exercise on mortality rate compared to the control group (it shows an improvement, it's just not statistically significant). The verbatim conclusion they present is: "This study suggests that combined MICT and HIIT has no effect on all cause mortality compared with recommended physical activity levels. However, we observed a lower all cause mortality trend after HIIT compared with controls and MICT."

tgb 6y ago
But also the control group is significantly physically active too.
- kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
  And the "High impact" is only interval training.
- zachm0 6y ago
  Yep, from the article: "Control participants chose to perform more of their physical activity as HIIT than the physical activity undertaken by participants in the MICT group. This meant that the controls achieved an exercise dose at an intensity between the MICT and HIIT groups."

asdffdsa 6y ago

Or you can do 5 jumping jacks!

krzat 6y ago

COVID basically forced me to start running (or go insane in home office), and it's been pretty great. For 4 weeks a week you are getting: - improved mental state - protection against covid - free calories to spend on food or weight loss - fresh air - better future health outcomes - time for podcasts - new hobby Overall, I highly recommend trying!