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I'm hoping that at least the basics will be here (posix shell, vim, browser, etc), I won't need anything else for a long long time.

rvz 6y ago
Like the grandparent comment, I would avoid this M1 Macbook since the developer ecosystem is still unsupported by it. Take this for example: https://github.com/docker/for-mac/issues/4733 https://github.com/docker/for-mac/issues/4733 Docker still doesn't run on Apple Silicon Macs, so the migration path is already disrupted here.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  Docker and Boot Camp like the only things that don't work, for fairly obvious reasons.
- Aperocky 6y ago
  Personally, I feel like docker is a intermediary product in terms of evolution between servers and cloud, and it's been massively over hyped. Many use cases, especially when it comes to microservices can almost always better served by something else
- robertoandred 6y ago
  You say “still” as if Apple silicon Macs are more than a day old.
  - totalZero 6y ago
    Developers were able to start working on Apple Silicon software several months ago. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-transition-to-apple-silicon/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-t...
    - imtringued 6y ago
      The DTK doesn't support virtualization. The final product might.
  - rvz 6y ago
    We can include the A12Z developer transition kit, which is an 'Apple Silicon Mac' which was available since July. The problem here is that in WWDC, Apple showed Docker Desktop running on an Apple Silicon system (maybe suggesting that it is at least running) and here we are in November it is still not running or not known if Apple Silicon is supported. I don't see any patches in the Docker repositories on such support, thus maybe Apple has a private fork for Apple Silicon. In general it is not available to us and we don't know when it will be.
- EugeneOZ 6y ago
  Not everyone needs to run Docker.
  - junga 6y ago
    Citation needed.
saagarjha 6y ago
All of those are there.

rvz 6y ago

Like the grandparent comment, I would avoid this M1 Macbook since the developer ecosystem is still unsupported by it. Take this for example: https://github.com/docker/for-mac/issues/4733 https://github.com/docker/for-mac/issues/4733 Docker still doesn't run on Apple Silicon Macs, so the migration path is already disrupted here.

saagarjha 6y ago
Docker and Boot Camp like the only things that don't work, for fairly obvious reasons.
Aperocky 6y ago
Personally, I feel like docker is a intermediary product in terms of evolution between servers and cloud, and it's been massively over hyped. Many use cases, especially when it comes to microservices can almost always better served by something else
robertoandred 6y ago
You say “still” as if Apple silicon Macs are more than a day old.
- totalZero 6y ago
  Developers were able to start working on Apple Silicon software several months ago. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-transition-to-apple-silicon/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-t...
  - imtringued 6y ago
    The DTK doesn't support virtualization. The final product might.
- rvz 6y ago
  We can include the A12Z developer transition kit, which is an 'Apple Silicon Mac' which was available since July. The problem here is that in WWDC, Apple showed Docker Desktop running on an Apple Silicon system (maybe suggesting that it is at least running) and here we are in November it is still not running or not known if Apple Silicon is supported. I don't see any patches in the Docker repositories on such support, thus maybe Apple has a private fork for Apple Silicon. In general it is not available to us and we don't know when it will be.
EugeneOZ 6y ago
Not everyone needs to run Docker.
- junga 6y ago
  Citation needed.

saagarjha 6y ago

All of those are there.