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Their line from the video about being the highest performance chip in single core appears to be true. This is of course a synthetic benchmark but the single cor
by WoodenChair 6y ago
Their line from the video about being the highest performance chip in single core appears to be true. This is of course a synthetic benchmark but the single core result is very promising. Note that the single core and multi core scores exceed the top-of-the-line 16” MacBook Pro (9th generation 8-core i9 2.4 ghz). I actually made the call to sell my 16” for the new Air yesterday. It’s looking like a good call. Glad I’m selling my 16” while it still has some value.
You can see all Air results so far here:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/search?q=MacBookAir10%2C1 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/search?q=MacBookAir10%2...
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- imwally 6y agoReplacing my 16" MBP (8 core i9 2.3ghz / 32GB RAM) with the new Air as well. All of that power (yes I know, it's not sustained) without a fan is incredible.
- WoodenChair 6y agoYeah I had almost the same configuration (2tb/32gb/2.4 ghz). I’m literally getting the new Air for half of what I’m selling it for.
- davideous 6y agoWhere are you selling it? I want to know where to buy a used 16” MBP.
- chrischen 6y agoI've sold on cragislist before... worked out fine.
- WoodenChair 6y agoeBay-you’re welcome to buy it if you want: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2-4-Ghz-i9-32-GB-RAM-2-TB-SSD-Radeon-5500M-8-GB-Free-Ship/124434052826?hash=item1cf8d8f6da:g:2yMAAOSwMXdfqvAk https://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2-4-Ghz-i9-32-...
- arvinsim 6y agoYou guys must have some generic or Apple specific workflows since you are confident that the software is already supported.
- saagarjha 6y agoAs long as you don't depend on x86_64 Docker containers or Boot Camp, you should be fine in general.
- srtjstjsj 6y agoWhy did you pay a fortune for 32GB RAM, a larger screen, and a dGPU if you don't need it? You could have bought a 13" MBP and saved enough cash to get the new Air and now have 2 laptops.
- xvector 6y ago1. How do you know he didn’t need it? 2. Even if he didn’t need it, why assume he didn’t want it? 3. Why are you assuming that money is an issue for him?
- bluedino 6y agoHe's assuming he didn't need 32GB if he's replacing it with a 16GB Air.
- eugeniub 6y agoAlso: Why assume he would want to have two separate laptops
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- cwhiz 6y agoIf he needs it he wouldn’t move to a laptop that doesn’t offer it. You can’t get 32GB of memory or a dGPU on the new Macs.
- misterdabb 6y agoIt is a general theme, people say how they are switching their specced out 2019 16inch MBP to these new M1 Macbooks, then getting all upset when people point out, they are probably not the professionals the top-end MBPs were aimed at. A lot of people run around with way more powerful laptops than they actually need for whatever they are doing, because it's through a business or it's deductible, but news flash, buying a Macbook Pro doesn't make you a pro. A question, if ALL pros were fine with 16GBs of RAM, why does Apple offer 4x as much? Answer, because a lot of people will actually need it. I am happy for people who will get these new devices an be happy with it, I might get one too. But truth be told, most of us getting these devices could make it work with the latest iPad Pro + Magic Keyboard just as well. (OK, I do need to code occasionally, but even for that there is pretty ok apps for iPad I could use) The expectations have to come the fuck down from where they are today, because the expectations put on these devices are just crazy. It's so overhyped that I think many will be disappointed, when compatibility issues surface and when people realise that the 3x, 5x, 7x performance digits are mainly down to Fixed Function Hardware and Accelerators and general performance increase is just slightly above the generational leap we are used to, with a bigger increase in efficiency.
- pgt 6y agoNote that the M1 does not support eGPUs, in case you need it.
- fastball 6y agoI want to do the same, but I like being able to do some gaming on my Windows partition (I opted for the 8GB dGPU as well).
- minxomat 6y agoDirect comparison between best MBP Intel 16" vs M1 Air: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/compare/4651916?baseline=4652635 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/compare/4651916?baselin... 1.5x single-core perf. M1 MacBook Pro vs Intel MBP (top specs) show same performance: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/compare/4652718?baseline=4652635 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/compare/4652718?baselin... Likely because GB5 doesn't run long enough to trigger thermal throttling on the M1 MBA. M1 is beating all CPUs on the market in single-core scores: https://browser.geekbench.com/processor-benchmarks https://browser.geekbench.com/processor-benchmarks (M1 at 1719, vs AMD Ryzen 9 5950X at 1628). Anandtech on the memory-affinity of GeekBench vs SPEC: > There’s been a lot of criticism about more common benchmark suites such as GeekBench, but frankly I've found these concerns or arguments to be quite unfounded. The only factual differences between workloads in SPEC and workloads in GB5 is that the latter has less outlier tests which are memory-heavy, meaning it’s more of a CPU benchmark whereas SPEC has more tendency towards CPU+DRAM.
- cmer 6y agoThe new MBA is a total beast. The comparison is almost unbelievable. Can't wait to see what they do with the iMac, Mac Pro and MBP 16". Just phenomenal!
- S_A_P 6y agoDamnit I have to decide the same thing. I’m really happy with my 16” mbp for once and I’m not sure if I want to get a smaller screen and give up windows support (for now) I feel like Ms could be convinced to make a version for Apple silicone if it keeps its performance advantage.
- minxomat 6y agoGood news is Parallels announced a closer colab with Apple to bring x86 virt to M1, too. They demo'd Parallels running a linux VM at WWDC, but the upcoming release will also support seamless Windows virt again.
- LeoPanthera 6y agoThat demo shows an ARM VM with Linux for ARM running inside it. There have been no announcements or demos of Intel emulation, besides Rosetta 2.
- minxomat 6y agoParallels announced a full version of Parallels Desktop (which is the Win-on-macOS product) at the same time as the event on Nov 10: https://www.parallels.com/blogs/parallels-desktop-apple-silicon-mac/ https://www.parallels.com/blogs/parallels-desktop-apple-sili...
- LeoPanthera 6y agoThat PR doesn't actually say anything about running Windows. You can't just port the app. A VM on an ARM system is still ARM inside, and given that the PR specifically mentions "support of x64 applications in Windows on ARM", this is clearly for ARM VMs. You'd need actual Intel emulation in order to run the normal version of Windows.
- terramex 6y ago> You'd need actual Intel emulation in order to run the normal version of Windows. Microsoft is working on enabling x64 emulation on ARM, it should roll out in preview this month[1]. I can see Windows 10 ARM-edition working inside Parallels with its own x64 emulation inside. The issue right now is that MS does not sell Win 10 ARM, it is available for OEMs only. x86 emulation on Windows 10 ARM was already done few years ago, when MS shipped their Surface ARM notebook. [1] https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/09/30/now-more-essential-than-ever-the-role-of-the-windows-pc-has-changed/ https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/09/30/now-m...
- Scarbutt 6y agoThey need to put out a 16" MBA.
- sneak 6y agoI bought the new Air, but I’m keeping my 16” as it may be the last laptop of that quality that can run programs without telling some stranger over the network that you’ve run a specific program. Current (and presumably future) macOS does this and you can’t turn it off, except with Little Snitch. New APIs in macOS 11 means that Little Snitch will no longer be able to block OS processes, so it will require external network filtering hardware. I’ll likely end up with Linux on the 16”, and use the new one for things that are not secret/private.
- claudeganon 6y agoThis is where I’m at too. Compromising Little Snitch and VPNs is just a bridge too far. It’s cool that they got this level of performance in a lightweight form factor, less so when it enables the worse of surveillance practices.
- sneak 6y agoUgh, I didn’t realize that the system apps would bypass VPNs, too. That’s terrible. :( https://appleterm.com/2020/10/20/macos-big-sur-firewalls-and-vpns/ https://appleterm.com/2020/10/20/macos-big-sur-firewalls-and... Looks like it will be impossible to use Apple Silicon (without external network hardware) without revealing your track log to the CIA. How cool is that?!
- derbOac 6y agoI'd like to see a good piece on these new Mac systems from the perspective of exactly what they mean in terms of software lockdown.
- sneak 6y agoMine should be here in a week or two, and doubtless I’ll be complaining on my blog with receipts. I can’t promise “good” but I’ll present the facts.
- brundolf 6y agoI'm seriously considering doing the same thing. My only hesitation is the screen size. But right now the laptop I bought in January is being outclassed by one that costs 1/3 the price...
- wishysgb 6y agoI think you should wait because I have a feeling all of this sounds too good to be true. wait for real world reviews.
- jug 6y agoThat Air will sell so well. Many don't even want to pay for the MacBook Pro's Touch Bar and many will probably see an Air's fanless design as an advantage over Pro, even if its CPU is throttled a little more often in sustained high CPU workloads. Complete silence is just that good. And it's going to be so much cheaper. I think the star of the show yesterday was definitely the MacBook Air.