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>A dim LCD newspaper on your wall would look really tacky, imo. It really depends on how you do it. They sell TV's like The Frame[1] from Samsung ($599 for th
by slg 6y ago
>A dim LCD newspaper on your wall would look really tacky, imo.
It really depends on how you do it. They sell TV's like The Frame[1] from Samsung ($599 for the 32" version) that look much closer to a picture frame and are designed for almost this exact purpose. If you are in some semi-permanent home (you probably should be before you spend $2.7k on an art piece) it isn't much work to mount it in a way that would hide the cables. From the looks of the photos in this article, the e-Ink version isn't event mounted flush against the wall and appears to be tilted downward. I don't love the way that looks given the cost. I would much rather spend half the money on that TV and a professional mounting.
[1] - https://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/tvs/the-frame/32-class-the-frame-qled-hdr-smart-tv-2020-qn32ls03tbfxza/ https://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/tvs/the-...
- thefounder 6y agoYou compare a lcd tv with eink....apples <--> oranges.
- slg 6y agoI am comparing the use case and not the technology. I am comparing one art piece to another art piece.
- CydeWeys 6y agoThe average power consumption of The Frame is 118 W (figure provided by Samsung). The average power consumption of an e-ink display that refreshes once daily and needs a single annual recharge is effectively 0 W. Using a rough price of electricity in San Francisco of just over $0.22/kWh, The Frame costs ~$230/yr to run. I don't know if I could, in good conscience, countenance wasting that much electricity on running a TV 24/7 to show a static image that updates once daily. Yes, you'd have to be running the e-ink display for awhile to break even on the power costs, and you could save some money on The Frame by putting it on a schedule where it turns off at night, but it still seems overly wasteful.
- google234123 6y agoDamn, electricity is expensive in SF.
- AdamN 6y agoWhat's your local rate?
- winter7 6y agoExpensive? Electricity is dirtcheap is the US. Try Germany, i pay 0.32 € per KW/h.
- hhh 6y ago$0.1038/kWh where I live in the states.
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- shiftpgdn 6y agoDo you guys have variable rate plans? In Texas I pay spot rate updating every 5 minutes. There is a 3c/kwh fee regardless of price. Most of the time it's 2-3c/kwh however it occasionally goes to $1-9/kwh. At night it's usually .01c to sometimes well into the negatives where I get paid to use electricity. As you can imagine I charge my electric car at night and in average it only costs me about $2-3 per 1000 miles of range.
- ryanhuff 6y agoIn Southern California, I paid about $0.32 per KwH.
- yftsui 6y agoIt is expensive comparably. In Seattle, the winter starting price is 0.096$ per KWH, after exceeding a certain limit it goes to to 0.10$ per KWH.
- learn_more 6y ago
- noahtallen 6y agoTo me, the poor look would be from the LCD being its own light source. The e-ink screen makes it look like a proper piece of paper since it’s illuminated by outside light. I think that really changes the concept. If I want a TV hanging on the wall, that’s easy enough (as you say). If I want a daily newspaper hanging on the wall looking like the real thing, I bet e-ink looks a lot better.
- detaro 6y agoIn the showroom The Frame looks indeed quite good, but I'd be worried about how it looks in less optimized spaces (i.e. dimly, unevenly lit). And they reserve the "Art mode" adjustments to their specific app for it, so you're very limited in using it for your own content.