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In the US at least, stockpiling antibiotics is a little tricky - kind of hard to find a doctor who will just write you a prescription for cipro "just in case."
by hguant 6y ago
In the US at least, stockpiling antibiotics is a little tricky - kind of hard to find a doctor who will just write you a prescription for cipro "just in case."
- renewiltord 6y agoPretty easy if you're willing to smuggle drugs across the border, though. You'll get away with a trip to South or East Asia and returning with a stockpile.
- driverdan 6y agoIt's not smuggling when the drug isn't controlled.
- LinuxBender 6y agoOr any medications for that matter. I've gone down this path. The best I could do was to get the doctor to double-up my prescriptions for a while, which gave me a 3 month buffer. That is why I am trying to learn how to make my prescriptions. Super dangerous, but I don't want to rely on fragile economies. I just watched a country lose its mind and take all the toilet paper.
- johndevor 6y agoYou can buy anti biotics over the counter in Mexico.
- LinuxBender 6y agoHow about all the other medications? I stay clear of anti-biotics anyway.
- ghaff 6y ago>I stay clear of anti-biotics anyway. You certainly shouldn't pop them for no good reason. But antibiotics can absolutely be life saving in the event of an infection.
- LinuxBender 6y agoFor sure, some people need it. Anti-biotics are abused heavily here in the U.S. which in itself is a major health risk, when the person might legitimately need them. People are even eating anti-biotics without knowing it. What beef producers are allowed to do with anti-biotics and plastic waste is obscene.
- ceejayoz 6y agoThe meat industry certainly overuses antibiotics, but the claim that "people are even eating antibiotics without knowing it" doesn't seem to be accurate. https://www.cdc.gov/drugresistance/food.html https://www.cdc.gov/drugresistance/food.html > Food animals should not have any antibiotics in their body when they are slaughtered or processed for food. Antibiotic residues are small amounts of leftover antibiotics or pieces of antibiotics that are not completely absorbed after an animal is given antibiotics. USDA, with FDA and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), administers the U.S. National Residue Program (NRP) to prevent residues that pose a potential threat to human health from entering the food supply.
- LinuxBender 6y agoI don't disagree, but I think part of the reason they can say that is that it has not been exhaustively studied. There are various articles on nih.gov [1] that summarize the problem and what would be required to properly study this. There is also a big monetary advantage to using antibiotics in animals which makes me skeptical of any documentation. Perhaps I am too skeptical. [1] - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK216502/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK216502/
- copperx 6y agoThat used to be true about 8 years ago, but not anymore. You need a prescription for any antibiotic.
- copperx 6y agoYou're learning to "make your own prescriptions"? Do you mean forging them or becoming a nurse practitioner?
- brohee 6y agoI understood it as manufacturing/extracting the right molecule.
- wolfram74 6y agoSome of the more mundane anti-biotics are pretty simple, as far as organic chemistry goes, I take bupropion[1] and the synthesis section doesn't look /too/ complicated. My o-chem has about 10 years of rust on it though. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bupropion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bupropion
- macksd 6y agoYou don't need a prescription to buy antibiotics that are sold for pets, like fish. And you can buy antibiotics that are sold for pets that happen to be the same as the antibiotics manufactured for humans.
- hguant 6y ago>And you can buy antibiotics that are sold for pets that happen to be the same as the antibiotics manufactured for human Yes, but there's a quality control aspect there that makes one a touch uncomfortable. My fish getting a little something extra in their amoxicillin is something I stress far less about then if I'm the one taking the pill.
- macksd 6y agoThat was my first thought too, but if I think I might go septic soon, I'm gonna take that risk. Additionally, I believe if the imprint codes match on a commercial product, you can be reasonably sure it was forced to go through all the same process: https://www.drugs.com/article/imprint-codes.html https://www.drugs.com/article/imprint-codes.html. I'm not a doctor, obviously. Sharing my possibly flawed understanding, not giving advice.
- wnevets 6y agoIf the apocalypse was happening outside my bunker a little extra amoxicillin would be the least of my worries.
- gowld 6y agoIt's easy to find a pet store, though. https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2019/11/26/veterinary-antibiotics-humans https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2019/11/26/veterinary-anti...
- smallnamespace 6y agoIt’s not hard to buy medication from India online.
- centimeter 6y agoYou can buy pet antibiotics online from canada. It's the same shit as human antibiotics.
- blacksmith_tb 6y agoI thought people often bought aquarium antibiotics over the counter to stockpile? I guess dosage could be a little more tricky, though.
- RandallBrown 6y agoI've had doctors prescribe me antibiotics "just in case" when I was going to be traveling. It's probably not something you could ask for too often, but I don't think it'd be that hard to do.
- hef19898 6y agoDepends on the destination. For trips to Africa, India or East Asia, that's not hard over here neither.
- kritiko 6y agoAnecdotally, my doctor suggested a script for cipro for a trip to Thailand - and we ended up using it.
- stef25 6y agoAbout 5 yrs ago a pharmacist in Bangkok sold me amoxicillin no questions asked. In the country side or in Laos or Cambodia it's even easier. Same for India and probably most of Africa. An extra 10$ goes a long way.