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For pro users, the fact that 32GB isn’t even an option is pretty surprising
by bobbylarrybobby 6y ago
For pro users, the fact that 32GB isn’t even an option is pretty surprising
- saagarjha 6y agoI don't think today's computers were aimed at those kinds of usecases.
- runawaybottle 6y agoBut 16gb is what I had in a computer 10 years ago. I was just window shopping a new gaming rig, and 32gb is affordable (100 bucks), 64gb (200 bucks). Cheap as shit, what’s the hold up?
- saagarjha 6y agoA new processor architecture. Wait a couple months and you'll probably have the computer you wanted released too.
- sroussey 6y agoThe memory is on package, not way out somewhere on the logic board. This will increase speed quite a bit, but limit physical size of memory modules, and thus amount. I think they worked themselves into a corner here until the 16” which has a discreet GPU and reconfiguration of the package.
- egsmi 6y agoA little bit up is was shown the memory in M1 is 5.5GHz DDR5. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25050625 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25050625 Can you please provide the link to 64GB DDR5-5500 for $200? I'd love to buy some too!
- runawaybottle 6y agohttps://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=64gb+ram https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=64gb+ram I guess DDR 500 runs you 350. It looks like Apple charges you 600 for ddr 400 32gb. I don’t know, what am I missing here?
- egsmi 6y agoI’m confused. The link is for DDR4, it’s all too slow, and Apple doesn’t offer a 32MB M1 option at this time.
- spacedcowboy 6y agoCan you actually link to a product, not a search ? Because none of the items coming up there are DDR5-5500, they're all DDR4-3600 or worse, as far as I can see.
- runawaybottle 6y agoI guess I was wrong, everything is ddr4.
- fomine3 6y agoIt's fair but if they choose fast but expensive and unexpandable technology, possibly the choice is failed in some perspective. I think most people who buy mini prefer RAM capacity than faster iGPU.
- nostromo 6y agoApple has a "missing middle" problem. They have a ton of fantastic consumer-level computing devices, and one ridiculously-priced mega-computer. But there are many of us that want something in the upper-middle: a fast computer that is upgradable, but maybe $2k and not $6k (and up). (The iMac Pro is a dud. People that want a powerful desktop generally don't want a non-upgradable all-in-one.)
- saagarjha 6y agoApple doesn't care about your upgradability concerns on the notebook lineup. Once you get past that, it has traditionally done fairly well at covering a wide spectrum of users from the fanless MacBook to the high-powered MacBook Pros.
- derefr 6y agoApple's solution for upgradability for their corporate customers, is their leasing program. Rather than swapping parts in the Mac, you swap the Mac itself for a more-powerful model when needed — without having to buy/sell anything.
- LoSboccacc 6y agoApple has missing middle _strategy_
- athms 6y agoI have a late-2013 13" MBP with 16GB of memory. Seven years later I would expect a 13" MBP to support at least 32GB. I can get 13" Windows laptops that support 32GB of memory. The Mini is a regression, from 64GB to 16GB of memory. The only computer worth a damn is the new MBA.
- saagarjha 6y agoWait just a bit and I'm sure your concerns in this area will entirely disappear.
- athms 6y agoThey already disappeared, I switched to Windows in 2019. I use MacStadium for compiling and testing iOS apps. I was wondering if the ARM machines would be worth a look, but they are disappointing. If I was still using Macs as my daily driver, I would buy the new MBA for a personal machine.
- whywhywhywhy 6y agoPretty sure my 2014 ish 13inch MBP with 16gb and 512 storage cost me around £1200, today speccing an M1 13inch MBP to the same 6 year old specs would cost almost £2000. Seems absurd.
- threeseed 6y agoMy guess is that the next wave will be Pro. And they will have significantly upgraded CPU/GPUs to match the memory.
- dylan604 6y agoBut it's right there in the name: 13" MacBook Pro
- stevenisageek 6y agoThe 13" 'pro' has never really been a 'real' pro. They were/are always spec'd with less cores than the 15"/16" and never had dedicated graphics.
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- threeseed 6y agoEntry level 13" MacBook Pro is for prosumers. Think web developers, photographers, bloggers etc.
- pvg 6y agoWeb developers and photographers are the opposite of 'prosumers', kind of by definition. Plus, think of the size of a full res photo coming out of a high-end phone, never mind a DSLR.
- dylan604 6y agoYou must not rate photographers very highly if you are mentioning them in the same sentence as "bloggers, etc".
- fxtentacle 6y agoMost of the professional photographers that I work with have PC workstations with 64gb to 256gb of RAM. Retouching a 48MP HDR file in Photoshop needs roughly 800MB of RAM per layer and per undo step.
- dep_b 6y agoThe DRAM seems to be integrated on the same package as the SoC.
- jll29 6y agoI should wait for a 64 GB option. I've already got 16 GB on all my older laptops, so when buying a new gadget RAM and SSD should have better specs (you feel more RAM more than more cores in many usage scenarios). It was surprising to see essentially the same form factor, the same operating system and not much to distinguish the three machines presented (lots of repetition like "faster compiles with XCode"). BTW, what's the size and weight of the new Air compared to the MacBook (which I liked, but which was killed before I could get one)? Seeing two machines that are nearly identical reminds me of countries with two mainstream political parties - neither discriminates clearly what their USP is...