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If he believes it is invalid, I'm not sure what else I'd expect him to say. The fact that the left has been absolutely out of their minds with hatred for the m

If he believes it is invalid, I'm not sure what else I'd expect him to say. The fact that the left has been absolutely out of their minds with hatred for the man for the last four years makes it very, very difficult for people to easily trust that they are not engaging in impropriety during the election. Their motto for removing him is essentially "At any cost" at this point. I'm not sure why you're framing his actions or words along the lines of "fascist dictator". This is simply a continuation of the vitriolic rhetoric I've been trying to combat for years now. It's crazed, and I do not understand why you - someone who can write clearly enough that you must be intelligent - cannot see it. It's rhetoric like that that is driving so many people to distrust you. Trump will challenge the election results in court and succeed or fail. It's as simple as that. Personally, I hope it's a failure because I don't want there to have been any impropriety. If that's the case, Trump is done. There is no fascism. There is no dictator. Please stop catastrophizing.

kingaillas 6y ago
>If he believes This is the problem - Trump is a moron and everything he believe is suspect. He believes he had the largest inaugural crowds ever, even after PHOTOGRAPHIC evidence proves otherwise. He believes his administration accomplished more in the first 100 days than any other one in US History. He believes COVID is a conspiracy, fading away, we've rounded the corner, doctors and hospitals are faking numbers to make money, the fake media only talks about it to hurt him and it will stop after the election. Etc. >I'm not sure why you're framing his actions or words along the lines of "fascist dictator". He has called for jailing or imprisonment of his political enemies, suggested the election system is rife with fraud, order troops to suppress free speech, had federal agents snatch people off the streets, tried to get other countries to smear his opponents before they got aid from the US, etc. The GOP ran a political convention when HALF of the the speakers were his relatives and advanced no agenda. If he were the President of some banana republic, we would say that is expected in a failing state led by a fascist dictator. I mean the convention alone is bordering on the type of stuff North Korea would stage.
ragnese 6y ago
It's not just that he's going to challenge the result in court. Please, go listen to his words- they're on YouTube. Read his tweets. He's saying things like that he would win if it weren't for all of the illegal votes being counted. That "bad things" are happening in Pennsylvania as his lead was closing. He said, months ago, that he didn't think votes should be counted after election day, which is absolutely absurd. He's literally trying to sow doubt about the election process and trying to make people think that Biden closing and overcoming a vote gap is suspicious, when it was totally expected. I don't throw the term around lightly, but I don't know what else to call a blatant undermining of democracy like that other than fascism. Maybe we can discuss whether or not fascism is all that bad, but I find no way you can argue in good faith that what he's saying about the election is "ho-hum. Nothing to see here."
- ycombobreaker 6y ago
  He has also casually suggested being president for more than 2 terms. I find that to be a statement in poor taste, at best. While the constitution is a living document by virtue of amendments, it stinks of aspirations for being dictator-for-life (when being spoken by a sitting president).
hedora 6y ago
He did everything in his power to make sure this election would be a catastrophe (but failed, to the credit of Republican and Democratic state governments). Now, he’s refusing to accept the results of the election. He has appointed self-proclaimed facists and neo-Nazis to his inner circle. His apparently illegal secret police force illegally detained protestors over the objections of the state governments that had legal jurisdiction over the protests. He said he rushed the appointment of an additional judge to the supreme court so he would have enough votes to overturn the election results. People claim he wants to be a “fascist dictator” because these are just recent examples of his four year concerted effort to dismantle our democracy. He did all of these things in the open. There’s no “catastophizing” here. These are all, well-documented, uncontested facts. Most are documented by multiple videos of him, and members of his administration speaking about them. There are dozens of other examples of this behavior, also all well-documented. Fortunately, it looks like he failed, and will soon be a former president.
zjs 6y ago
> Trump will challenge the election results in court and succeed or fail. It's as simple as that. Personally, I hope it's a failure because I don't want there to have been any impropriety. If that's the case, Trump is done. There is no fascism. There is no dictator. It's not “as simple as that.” He's made baseless claims about the security of mail-based voting, suggested that shifts in tallies are the results of illegal votes — instead of a predictable effect of preventing counties from tallying ballots until election day, and clearly and unequivocally claimed that he has won the election and that any other outcome must be a result of fraud. Working to create the appearance of fraud and then pointing to the situation as evidence is problematic, even if it is not ultimately successful.
wokwokwok 6y ago
> It’s crazed... I hear you, and I know what you mean. ...but, I don’t think you can reasonably claim that now, even if, perhaps, you could previously. I’m not trying to convince anyone; I’m just saying, for me, looking at what is happening right now, I cannot argue that the behaviour Trump is displaying is a) inappropriate for the potus, and b) scarily like what you would expect from a “fascist dictator”. I can’t disagree with you more strongly than this: regardless of what has happened in the past, what is happening right now is NOT a continuation of the last four years of leftist media agenda.

kingaillas 6y ago

>If he believes This is the problem - Trump is a moron and everything he believe is suspect. He believes he had the largest inaugural crowds ever, even after PHOTOGRAPHIC evidence proves otherwise. He believes his administration accomplished more in the first 100 days than any other one in US History. He believes COVID is a conspiracy, fading away, we've rounded the corner, doctors and hospitals are faking numbers to make money, the fake media only talks about it to hurt him and it will stop after the election. Etc. >I'm not sure why you're framing his actions or words along the lines of "fascist dictator". He has called for jailing or imprisonment of his political enemies, suggested the election system is rife with fraud, order troops to suppress free speech, had federal agents snatch people off the streets, tried to get other countries to smear his opponents before they got aid from the US, etc. The GOP ran a political convention when HALF of the the speakers were his relatives and advanced no agenda. If he were the President of some banana republic, we would say that is expected in a failing state led by a fascist dictator. I mean the convention alone is bordering on the type of stuff North Korea would stage.

ragnese 6y ago

It's not just that he's going to challenge the result in court. Please, go listen to his words- they're on YouTube. Read his tweets. He's saying things like that he would win if it weren't for all of the illegal votes being counted. That "bad things" are happening in Pennsylvania as his lead was closing. He said, months ago, that he didn't think votes should be counted after election day, which is absolutely absurd. He's literally trying to sow doubt about the election process and trying to make people think that Biden closing and overcoming a vote gap is suspicious, when it was totally expected. I don't throw the term around lightly, but I don't know what else to call a blatant undermining of democracy like that other than fascism. Maybe we can discuss whether or not fascism is all that bad, but I find no way you can argue in good faith that what he's saying about the election is "ho-hum. Nothing to see here."

ycombobreaker 6y ago
He has also casually suggested being president for more than 2 terms. I find that to be a statement in poor taste, at best. While the constitution is a living document by virtue of amendments, it stinks of aspirations for being dictator-for-life (when being spoken by a sitting president).

hedora 6y ago

He did everything in his power to make sure this election would be a catastrophe (but failed, to the credit of Republican and Democratic state governments). Now, he’s refusing to accept the results of the election. He has appointed self-proclaimed facists and neo-Nazis to his inner circle. His apparently illegal secret police force illegally detained protestors over the objections of the state governments that had legal jurisdiction over the protests. He said he rushed the appointment of an additional judge to the supreme court so he would have enough votes to overturn the election results. People claim he wants to be a “fascist dictator” because these are just recent examples of his four year concerted effort to dismantle our democracy. He did all of these things in the open. There’s no “catastophizing” here. These are all, well-documented, uncontested facts. Most are documented by multiple videos of him, and members of his administration speaking about them. There are dozens of other examples of this behavior, also all well-documented. Fortunately, it looks like he failed, and will soon be a former president.

zjs 6y ago

> Trump will challenge the election results in court and succeed or fail. It's as simple as that. Personally, I hope it's a failure because I don't want there to have been any impropriety. If that's the case, Trump is done. There is no fascism. There is no dictator. It's not “as simple as that.” He's made baseless claims about the security of mail-based voting, suggested that shifts in tallies are the results of illegal votes — instead of a predictable effect of preventing counties from tallying ballots until election day, and clearly and unequivocally claimed that he has won the election and that any other outcome must be a result of fraud. Working to create the appearance of fraud and then pointing to the situation as evidence is problematic, even if it is not ultimately successful.

wokwokwok 6y ago

> It’s crazed... I hear you, and I know what you mean. ...but, I don’t think you can reasonably claim that now, even if, perhaps, you could previously. I’m not trying to convince anyone; I’m just saying, for me, looking at what is happening right now, I cannot argue that the behaviour Trump is displaying is a) inappropriate for the potus, and b) scarily like what you would expect from a “fascist dictator”. I can’t disagree with you more strongly than this: regardless of what has happened in the past, what is happening right now is NOT a continuation of the last four years of leftist media agenda.