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He wasn't slandered. It is an objective fact that he's racist and a person without moral compass or character. I wonder, have you ever actually listened to him

He wasn't slandered. It is an objective fact that he's racist and a person without moral compass or character. I wonder, have you ever actually listened to him? Have you seen and heard the things he himself has been proud of? Have you seen how he ran his own businesses?

ardy42 6y ago
> He wasn't slandered. It is an objective fact that he's racist and a person without moral compass or character. Also grossly incompetent, ignorant, and incurious. It seems the only talents he ever had were inherited wealth and marketing himself.
- krapp 6y ago
  > It seems the only talents he ever had were inherited wealth and marketing himself. One of those isn't a talent, but yes. Although he also married wealth, so that might be a talent of sorts. His business record is a string of failures, lawsuits and bankruptcies, his greatest cultural notoriety prior to election was playing parodies of himself on television, his greatest political accomplishment was running for President in 2000 as a Reform Party Candidate and losing, and he didn't even write The Art of the Deal.
  - ardy42 6y ago
    > One of those isn't a talent, but yes. I know. I was making a bit of joke there. > Although he also married wealth, so that might be a talent of sorts. He did? I was under the impression he just married models, who I assumed where in to him because of his reputation for being rich.
fairity 6y ago
Trump being racist is not an objective fact. Calling someone a racist always involves a degree of mind reading that’s impossible to prove. You’re claiming that his racist remarks prove he holds racist beliefs. It’s possible that his racist remarks are driven entirely by his desire to appear blasphemous and be divisive.
- Daishiman 6y ago
  This is an irrelevant nitpick. When you have the ability to actually shape policies, if you shape them in a racist way with the intent to do so and don't care about it, that's what it makes you.
- longtimegoogler 6y ago
  I also don't think Trump is a racist. I think he is an opportunist, though, who was willing to say things that were borderline racist to rally his supporters. In other words, he was willing to pander to racists for power. Some examples include: * Calling Haiti and African countries as "shitholes" * Calling NBA players "very dumb", etc.

ardy42 6y ago

> He wasn't slandered. It is an objective fact that he's racist and a person without moral compass or character. Also grossly incompetent, ignorant, and incurious. It seems the only talents he ever had were inherited wealth and marketing himself.

krapp 6y ago
> It seems the only talents he ever had were inherited wealth and marketing himself. One of those isn't a talent, but yes. Although he also married wealth, so that might be a talent of sorts. His business record is a string of failures, lawsuits and bankruptcies, his greatest cultural notoriety prior to election was playing parodies of himself on television, his greatest political accomplishment was running for President in 2000 as a Reform Party Candidate and losing, and he didn't even write The Art of the Deal.
- ardy42 6y ago
  > One of those isn't a talent, but yes. I know. I was making a bit of joke there. > Although he also married wealth, so that might be a talent of sorts. He did? I was under the impression he just married models, who I assumed where in to him because of his reputation for being rich.

fairity 6y ago

Trump being racist is not an objective fact. Calling someone a racist always involves a degree of mind reading that’s impossible to prove. You’re claiming that his racist remarks prove he holds racist beliefs. It’s possible that his racist remarks are driven entirely by his desire to appear blasphemous and be divisive.

Daishiman 6y ago
This is an irrelevant nitpick. When you have the ability to actually shape policies, if you shape them in a racist way with the intent to do so and don't care about it, that's what it makes you.
longtimegoogler 6y ago
I also don't think Trump is a racist. I think he is an opportunist, though, who was willing to say things that were borderline racist to rally his supporters. In other words, he was willing to pander to racists for power. Some examples include: * Calling Haiti and African countries as "shitholes" * Calling NBA players "very dumb", etc.