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I disagree, Democratic voters again did not get to choose their candidate. A candidate was selected for them. Even better one of the worst candidates during the

I disagree, Democratic voters again did not get to choose their candidate. A candidate was selected for them. Even better one of the worst candidates during the primary was penciled in as Vice President; she is a good little party follower having the approved opinion and not one of her own. If anything it shows that the party rules above all. The lesson of Trump is that we have two political parties so immune to outside challenge it took someone of his level of money, fame, and more, to beat both parties and make no mistake, be beat both. Hence going forward, when Congress tells you they want to pass laws preventing certain monies from entering politics always understand it is to prevent anyone challenging their two party rule

enraged_camel 6y ago
>>I disagree, Democratic voters again did not get to choose their candidate. A candidate was selected for them. This is quite wrong. Biden crushed Bernie in the primaries.
- sigzero 6y ago
  But Harris was still a very horrible choice.
  - samiru 6y ago
    A fun fact: ”Kamala” is Finnish for ”Horrible”.
- 2020election 6y ago
  Bernie, like Trump, had a real backing, by real people, with real policies that speak to the majority. Biden is an empty shell. http://joebiden.info http://joebiden.info
- dandersh 6y ago
  No, Biden had never won a single primary (while Bernie had multiple during this campaign alone) until SC, when most every other candidate dropped out while endorsing Biden in a span of a week or so in a (successful) attempt to deny Bernie the nomination. And then there are things like the Iowa caucus where Mayor Pete decided to crown himself winner before one was officially declared (gee, sound familiar?) because the Iowa Dem party crapped the bed.
  - evgen 6y ago
    Bernie only won a single primary, Nevada, prior to South Carolina. He lost in Iowa and tied in New Hampshire. Just prior to Super Tuesday several candidates who were polling in single digits dropped out and endorsed Joe Biden. Maybe it was because they agreed with Joe's policies, maybe the party put a gun to their head, and maybe they just didn't like Bernie.
thatguy0900 6y ago
I would have thought that's clear when Hillary used campaign funds while running against Bernie https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/dnc-leak-clinton-team-deflected-state-cash-concerns-226191 https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/dnc-leak-clinton-team...
ineedasername 6y ago
Democratic voters again did not get to choose their candidate Didn't Joe Biden get most of the votes in the primaries? After Super Tuesday he was leading in delegates, and once the race came down to 1-on-1 with Bernie he did even better. This tells me there is significant support for very liberal policies like those from Bernie, but the party as a whole is still much closer to the center.
- whateveracct 6y ago
  Biden absolutely dominated the primaries once the voting began.
  - ComputerGuru 6y ago
    The staggered nature of the primaries combined with the inanity that is FPTP makes for poor fairness. ~No one will vote for their preferred candidate if they find out he/she is doing poorly - they’ll vote for the most electable candidate that they can stomach.
- andrepd 6y ago
  Bernie was the front-runner until the week where every single candidate simultaneously dropped out to endorse Biden. I think this is what people mean when they say the establishment rose to fuck Bernie when it became clear that he could actually realistically win the nomination.
  - chris11 6y ago
    Biden wasn't my first choice the primaries, but if Bernie had more support he could have beaten Biden in a head-to-head race. Though I think part of the cause for this accusation is that Bernie does well among non-voters. Thinking back to 2016 Clinton clearly had more support in the primaries than Bernie, but Bernie had a lot of support from people who didn't normally vote. So it does make sense that when Bernie lost, that group didn't feel represented by the democratic party.
    - 6y ago
colinmhayes 6y ago
Biden got the most votes. Old people like him. Blue collar people like him. Black people like him. His stutter is endearing to many in a george bush kind of way. Use your brain. He'll be a great president because he knows that the most important job of the president is delegating to responsible people.

enraged_camel 6y ago

>>I disagree, Democratic voters again did not get to choose their candidate. A candidate was selected for them. This is quite wrong. Biden crushed Bernie in the primaries.

sigzero 6y ago
But Harris was still a very horrible choice.
- samiru 6y ago
  A fun fact: ”Kamala” is Finnish for ”Horrible”.
2020election 6y ago
Bernie, like Trump, had a real backing, by real people, with real policies that speak to the majority. Biden is an empty shell. http://joebiden.info http://joebiden.info
dandersh 6y ago
No, Biden had never won a single primary (while Bernie had multiple during this campaign alone) until SC, when most every other candidate dropped out while endorsing Biden in a span of a week or so in a (successful) attempt to deny Bernie the nomination. And then there are things like the Iowa caucus where Mayor Pete decided to crown himself winner before one was officially declared (gee, sound familiar?) because the Iowa Dem party crapped the bed.
- evgen 6y ago
  Bernie only won a single primary, Nevada, prior to South Carolina. He lost in Iowa and tied in New Hampshire. Just prior to Super Tuesday several candidates who were polling in single digits dropped out and endorsed Joe Biden. Maybe it was because they agreed with Joe's policies, maybe the party put a gun to their head, and maybe they just didn't like Bernie.

thatguy0900 6y ago

I would have thought that's clear when Hillary used campaign funds while running against Bernie https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/dnc-leak-clinton-team-deflected-state-cash-concerns-226191 https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/dnc-leak-clinton-team...

ineedasername 6y ago

Democratic voters again did not get to choose their candidate Didn't Joe Biden get most of the votes in the primaries? After Super Tuesday he was leading in delegates, and once the race came down to 1-on-1 with Bernie he did even better. This tells me there is significant support for very liberal policies like those from Bernie, but the party as a whole is still much closer to the center.

whateveracct 6y ago
Biden absolutely dominated the primaries once the voting began.
- ComputerGuru 6y ago
  The staggered nature of the primaries combined with the inanity that is FPTP makes for poor fairness. ~No one will vote for their preferred candidate if they find out he/she is doing poorly - they’ll vote for the most electable candidate that they can stomach.
andrepd 6y ago
Bernie was the front-runner until the week where every single candidate simultaneously dropped out to endorse Biden. I think this is what people mean when they say the establishment rose to fuck Bernie when it became clear that he could actually realistically win the nomination.
- chris11 6y ago
  Biden wasn't my first choice the primaries, but if Bernie had more support he could have beaten Biden in a head-to-head race. Though I think part of the cause for this accusation is that Bernie does well among non-voters. Thinking back to 2016 Clinton clearly had more support in the primaries than Bernie, but Bernie had a lot of support from people who didn't normally vote. So it does make sense that when Bernie lost, that group didn't feel represented by the democratic party.
  - 6y ago

colinmhayes 6y ago

Biden got the most votes. Old people like him. Blue collar people like him. Black people like him. His stutter is endearing to many in a george bush kind of way. Use your brain. He'll be a great president because he knows that the most important job of the president is delegating to responsible people.