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Yea but you can also say criminalization has worked extremely well. Singapore for example. What I worry about here is another instance of treating symptoms ins

Yea but you can also say criminalization has worked extremely well. Singapore for example. What I worry about here is another instance of treating symptoms instead of causes. Why do people feel like they need to use drugs like heroin? > The law provides a lot of additional funding to mental health and substance abuse programs, which could actually help people in those situations. So if I want healthcare I should get addicted to meth? I'm being flippant here but this goes back to the earlier point about paying for your own healthcare here in this equation.

zests 6y ago
How has criminalization worked in the United States?
- A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago
  The question seems simple, but the answer is complex depending on who you ask. There are populations that benefited greatly from criminalization of various substances ( say, for profit prison stocks treated as reit stocks ).
intricatedetail 6y ago
Can you write more about Singapore? My view is that when drug laws are very harsh, then people will less likely admit to use and dealers will use more precautions. Since drug use is mostly estimated based on surveys and police report you may see the policy effective on paper, but the reality may be far different. It is a natural instinct to use drugs akin to listening to music or having sex for pleasure. If you ban music people will still listen to it, just you wouldn't know.
- cbozeman 6y ago
  Singapore is largely homogeneous, is wealthy (for the area) with an average income of $9200 USD, has excellent health care that covers all citizens, is a geographically small nation state, has extremely low unemployment (even now, at 4.38%) and has a small population (5.7 million). You don't need to do drugs if everything in your life is going well. I saw this with my best friend during his divorce. We spent a lot of time together, often I'd go see him everyday after he got off work. Some days he'd drink two bottles of wine and a six pack. Now his divorce has been finalized for several months, he rarely drinks. Turns out when your life isn't in shambles, you don't need a chemical means to cope.
  - imtringued 6y ago
    I don't understand. Are you really saying your friend would have been better off if the police had arrested him? Isn't your entire comment an argument in favor of legalization? People use drugs when they have to which means criminalization does nothing or makes things worse.
- kortilla 6y ago
  > It is a natural instinct to use drugs Citation? I’m not particularly tempted to try heroin. What’s wrong with me?
  - intricatedetail 6y ago
    Check https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20140528-do-animals-take-drugs https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20140528-do-animals-take-... It mostly comes to individual needs, maybe you don't fancy some heroin but you likely have experienced some alcohol, coffee or your body own drug anandamide

zests 6y ago

How has criminalization worked in the United States?

A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago
The question seems simple, but the answer is complex depending on who you ask. There are populations that benefited greatly from criminalization of various substances ( say, for profit prison stocks treated as reit stocks ).

intricatedetail 6y ago

Can you write more about Singapore? My view is that when drug laws are very harsh, then people will less likely admit to use and dealers will use more precautions. Since drug use is mostly estimated based on surveys and police report you may see the policy effective on paper, but the reality may be far different. It is a natural instinct to use drugs akin to listening to music or having sex for pleasure. If you ban music people will still listen to it, just you wouldn't know.

cbozeman 6y ago
Singapore is largely homogeneous, is wealthy (for the area) with an average income of $9200 USD, has excellent health care that covers all citizens, is a geographically small nation state, has extremely low unemployment (even now, at 4.38%) and has a small population (5.7 million). You don't need to do drugs if everything in your life is going well. I saw this with my best friend during his divorce. We spent a lot of time together, often I'd go see him everyday after he got off work. Some days he'd drink two bottles of wine and a six pack. Now his divorce has been finalized for several months, he rarely drinks. Turns out when your life isn't in shambles, you don't need a chemical means to cope.
- imtringued 6y ago
  I don't understand. Are you really saying your friend would have been better off if the police had arrested him? Isn't your entire comment an argument in favor of legalization? People use drugs when they have to which means criminalization does nothing or makes things worse.
kortilla 6y ago
> It is a natural instinct to use drugs Citation? I’m not particularly tempted to try heroin. What’s wrong with me?
- intricatedetail 6y ago
  Check https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20140528-do-animals-take-drugs https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20140528-do-animals-take-... It mostly comes to individual needs, maybe you don't fancy some heroin but you likely have experienced some alcohol, coffee or your body own drug anandamide