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I'll never understand people who run kubernetes, or even docker for that matter, on their personal servers

by twiclo 6y ago

k__ 6y ago
I don't even understand 99% of the people who do it for their business workloads, but who am I to judge.
- neurostimulant 6y ago
  Job security?
yoyohello13 6y ago
For fun?
- k__ 6y ago
  The only answer I would accept! :D
p_l 6y ago
Amount of work I have to do on k3s vs amount of work I have do on "classic" setup... well, k3s is greatly simpler. And I can throw out some problematic distro idiosyncracies.
- sercand 6y ago
  People are assuming k3s or managed Kubernetes (like GKE) is too complex or requires too much maintenance. I have bunch of applications running on raspberry pi and another ubuntu machine at home as classic setup and running GKE on production for our company. I can say that I spend more time on classic setup and simple things on Kubernetes like zero downtime deployment or auto cert with Let's Encrypt much harder on classic setup.
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kevindong 6y ago
I do use Docker on my personal server so that I don't have to struggle with getting compatible dependencies between my local dev machine and the server. Additionally, the Docker daemon can be figured to auto-restart containers if/when they crash. I use a single docker-compose.yml to bring up the containers I want and to not need to configure each application individually.
easton 6y ago
Docker compose is too dang easy to use. It took me like an hour to get all the services like I wanted them, and it’s reasonably portable if I ever need to move the services to a different box. And I’ve had stuff break on apt upgrade before, but I haven’t had trouble with updated containers (if I build them or get them from hub). K8s at home would make me wake up in a cold sweat at night to make sure I didn’t break something though. That’s way too much.
anaganisk 6y ago
I never understand why people quickly judge/look down upon people who just want to try new tech, or even use something because they want to.
darumderum 6y ago
I use Docker + Traefik and it's just a heaven. No nginx configurations, no cert generation, renewing or configuration of an auto-renewer. Everything just works out of the box
GordonS 6y ago
I've setup many a Linux server over the years. Generally I set it up, and it works great for ages, but when something eventually does break, it's been so long since I touched it that I'm lost. Another issue is "works on my machine" - with containers I don't need to worry about what packages and versions are available in the package manager. I can run a container anywhere. And in the case where there is a hardware failure, it takes an age to get everything back up and running. Using containers forces you to have everything setup in a reproducible way. If you're not familiar with containers, I understand that the learning curve might seem steep, or that it might seem too complicated, but it's honestly not. Now, I wouldn't personally advocate for running k8s, or even k3s, on a personal server - they really are very complicated, and k8s in particular uses a lot of CPU and RAM to do even nothing. But Docker Compose and Swarm are pretty simple really, and life before them was absolutely worse - I love these tools.

I'll never understand people who run kubernetes, or even docker for that matter, on their personal servers

by twiclo 6y ago

I'll never understand people who run kubernetes, or even docker for that matter, on their personal servers

k__ 6y ago

I don't even understand 99% of the people who do it for their business workloads, but who am I to judge.

neurostimulant 6y ago
Job security?

yoyohello13 6y ago

For fun?

k__ 6y ago
The only answer I would accept! :D

p_l 6y ago

Amount of work I have to do on k3s vs amount of work I have do on "classic" setup... well, k3s is greatly simpler. And I can throw out some problematic distro idiosyncracies.

sercand 6y ago
People are assuming k3s or managed Kubernetes (like GKE) is too complex or requires too much maintenance. I have bunch of applications running on raspberry pi and another ubuntu machine at home as classic setup and running GKE on production for our company. I can say that I spend more time on classic setup and simple things on Kubernetes like zero downtime deployment or auto cert with Let's Encrypt much harder on classic setup.

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kevindong 6y ago

I do use Docker on my personal server so that I don't have to struggle with getting compatible dependencies between my local dev machine and the server. Additionally, the Docker daemon can be figured to auto-restart containers if/when they crash. I use a single docker-compose.yml to bring up the containers I want and to not need to configure each application individually.

easton 6y ago

Docker compose is too dang easy to use. It took me like an hour to get all the services like I wanted them, and it’s reasonably portable if I ever need to move the services to a different box. And I’ve had stuff break on apt upgrade before, but I haven’t had trouble with updated containers (if I build them or get them from hub). K8s at home would make me wake up in a cold sweat at night to make sure I didn’t break something though. That’s way too much.

anaganisk 6y ago

I never understand why people quickly judge/look down upon people who just want to try new tech, or even use something because they want to.

darumderum 6y ago

I use Docker + Traefik and it's just a heaven. No nginx configurations, no cert generation, renewing or configuration of an auto-renewer. Everything just works out of the box

GordonS 6y ago

I've setup many a Linux server over the years. Generally I set it up, and it works great for ages, but when something eventually does break, it's been so long since I touched it that I'm lost. Another issue is "works on my machine" - with containers I don't need to worry about what packages and versions are available in the package manager. I can run a container anywhere. And in the case where there is a hardware failure, it takes an age to get everything back up and running. Using containers forces you to have everything setup in a reproducible way. If you're not familiar with containers, I understand that the learning curve might seem steep, or that it might seem too complicated, but it's honestly not. Now, I wouldn't personally advocate for running k8s, or even k3s, on a personal server - they really are very complicated, and k8s in particular uses a lot of CPU and RAM to do even nothing. But Docker Compose and Swarm are pretty simple really, and life before them was absolutely worse - I love these tools.