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I can't buy it, European citizens almost all have to wear masks and we can clearly see that this measure alone doesn't seem to have an impact on the epidemic as

by polote 6y ago

I can't buy it, European citizens almost all have to wear masks and we can clearly see that this measure alone doesn't seem to have an impact on the epidemic as the speed of the increase of cases is more or less the same that what we had in march. And nobody was wearing masks at that time.

bot41 6y ago
That is a good point which is worth discussing. From an opposite point of view Czech Republic mandated masks early on which seemed to work. Now they are in a bad state which is being blamed on relaxing the restrictions they had in place.
- mathgorges 6y ago
  This is interesting. Hypothesis: Wearing a mask is a physical reminder that we're in a pandemic, which helps folks remember to do other things which reduce their risk (avoid touching things unnecessarily, wash hands more often, staying at home unless necessary, etc)
  - theplague42 6y ago
    There was a Japanese study about this awhile back and that was the general conclusion; that the signaling is important regardless of any "real" effect. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3536629/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3536629/
nmridul 6y ago
That shows the masks are working. Since the number of infected people have increased, the rate of infection should also increase. If it remains same, then there is an actual reduction
- goalieca 6y ago
  The epidemiological curve is actually linear (constant derivative) in the middle. It's basically an S-curve in our parlance.
nfRfqX5n 6y ago
either you are commenting on the not-so-great title of this article, or you didn't read it. the last paragraph clearly states: > To do so, each of us needs to follow these three W’s: Wear a mask. Watch your distance (stay 6 feet apart). Wash your hands often.
jjgreen 6y ago
Masks are like violence, when they don't work, use more!
docPangloss 6y ago
HackerNews continually gets triggered by my posts: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24984527 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24984527 This post links to an article showing masks don't work (N95 masks that are worn properly do work, though). "The Most Masked European Countries Have the Biggest Coronavirus Surges" https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/11/most-masked-european-countries-have-biggest-daniel-greenfield/ https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/11/most-masked-europea...

by polote 6y ago

bot41 6y ago

That is a good point which is worth discussing. From an opposite point of view Czech Republic mandated masks early on which seemed to work. Now they are in a bad state which is being blamed on relaxing the restrictions they had in place.

mathgorges 6y ago
This is interesting. Hypothesis: Wearing a mask is a physical reminder that we're in a pandemic, which helps folks remember to do other things which reduce their risk (avoid touching things unnecessarily, wash hands more often, staying at home unless necessary, etc)
- theplague42 6y ago
  There was a Japanese study about this awhile back and that was the general conclusion; that the signaling is important regardless of any "real" effect. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3536629/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3536629/

nmridul 6y ago

That shows the masks are working. Since the number of infected people have increased, the rate of infection should also increase. If it remains same, then there is an actual reduction

goalieca 6y ago
The epidemiological curve is actually linear (constant derivative) in the middle. It's basically an S-curve in our parlance.

nfRfqX5n 6y ago

either you are commenting on the not-so-great title of this article, or you didn't read it. the last paragraph clearly states: > To do so, each of us needs to follow these three W’s: Wear a mask. Watch your distance (stay 6 feet apart). Wash your hands often.

jjgreen 6y ago

Masks are like violence, when they don't work, use more!

docPangloss 6y ago

HackerNews continually gets triggered by my posts: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24984527 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24984527 This post links to an article showing masks don't work (N95 masks that are worn properly do work, though). "The Most Masked European Countries Have the Biggest Coronavirus Surges" https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/11/most-masked-european-countries-have-biggest-daniel-greenfield/ https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/11/most-masked-europea...