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Diversity and self balancing of ecosystem are quite important, mono-cultures can do more damage than good but on the other side, were have problem of unchecked

Diversity and self balancing of ecosystem are quite important, mono-cultures can do more damage than good but on the other side, were have problem of unchecked climate change and we are running out time (at best we have 10 more years). To have any fighting chance we would need to plant 1 trillion trees in next 2 years, significant task considering how much is done up to this point. Project "trillion trees" exist since 2006 "... until 22 Feb 2020 13,638,907,054 trees have been registered around the world. That looks like an amazing achievement; in 14 years, the number of trees planted is almost two times the size of the human population. Unfortunately, that is not remotely enough as in comparison with the goal of 1,200,000,000,000 trees that is 1.14%. With the same speed, we would need 1232 years to finish the project." https://www.34rest.com/articles/trees/trillion-trees/ https://www.34rest.com/articles/trees/trillion-trees/

quixoticelixer- 6y ago
Many more trees than that have been planted, we have planted several hundred million (and possibly much more) in New Zealand alone since that period
- NiceWayToDoIT 6y ago
  Official statistic https://www.trilliontreecampaign.org/ https://www.trilliontreecampaign.org/ 13.49 billion so 1 trillion = 1000 billion = 1,000,000 million 1 billion = 1000 million New Zealand = let say 500 million trees ? = 0.5 billion = 0.0005 trillion trees
  - quixoticelixer- 6y ago
    New Zealand has planted ~250 million trees in the past 2 years. still a far way of 1 trillion but more than you might think. https://www.teururakau.govt.nz/funding-and-programmes/forestry/one-billion-trees-programme/progress-towards-planting-one-billion-trees/tracking-planting-for-the-one-billion-trees-programme/ https://www.teururakau.govt.nz/funding-and-programmes/forest...
  - robocat 6y ago
    Current farmed count of exotic trees in NZ is a bit more than 500 million by my calcs. Figures from Internet: 1.7 million hectares of exotics planted in NZ. 300 stems per hectare at ~30yrs old once thinned. 1000 stems per hectare when planted.
simonsarris 6y ago
> (at best we have 10 more years) why does that sound familiar https://apnews.com/article/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0 https://apnews.com/article/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0 > (1989) A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000. > He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.
- fastball 6y ago
  Yeah, at this point climate change has kinda become nuclear fusion – always 10 years away from the end. Not that we shouldn't do anything, because climate change is real. It would just be nice if people could stop being so fire and brimstone about stuff that turns out not to be the end of the world after all (like ACB getting confirmed to SCOTUS). The society that cried wolf.
  - dgritsko 6y ago
    I mean, Barrett was sworn in less than a week ago. Regardless of how you feel about her, it's far too early to make any kind of judgement about the implications of her confirmation.
    - fastball 6y ago
      There is no possible way the implications will be anywhere near the level of dire that you'd believe after reading the news articles and seeing people's internet comments and tweets. I mean, people are talking about an overturn of Roe v. Wade, somehow failing to realize that RvW was ruled on by a SCOTUS with a conservative majority. If Obergefell gets overturned (it won't), an actual law can be passed this time, hell maybe even a constitutional amendment, since nearly a supermajority of Americans outright support gay marriage.
      - wycy 6y ago
        The concern is less that Roe v Wade will be overturned outright so much as it will be de facto overturned by death by a thousand cuts. Dozens of abortion-rights cases are heading toward the Supreme Court, and Mississippi's attempt to pass a 15-week abortion ban is just the start.
forgotmypw17 6y ago
Is there any known about viability of all these planted trees? What percentage of them "make it"? Anecdotally, I've seen a good portion of trees planted near other wooded areas not make it for one reason or another. I think the planters had already lost trees in the past to deer, because they had plastic guards around the stalks. However, many only lived for a couple of years and dried up. It makes me sad to think about it.
- quixoticelixer- 6y ago
  Doing it properly you should get about 80%, however a lot of the time it's not done properly.
  - swader999 6y ago
    This is about right. This eighty percent will also create seed cones through their life.
hobby-coder-guy 6y ago
10 more years?

quixoticelixer- 6y ago

Many more trees than that have been planted, we have planted several hundred million (and possibly much more) in New Zealand alone since that period

NiceWayToDoIT 6y ago
Official statistic https://www.trilliontreecampaign.org/ https://www.trilliontreecampaign.org/ 13.49 billion so 1 trillion = 1000 billion = 1,000,000 million 1 billion = 1000 million New Zealand = let say 500 million trees ? = 0.5 billion = 0.0005 trillion trees
- quixoticelixer- 6y ago
  New Zealand has planted ~250 million trees in the past 2 years. still a far way of 1 trillion but more than you might think. https://www.teururakau.govt.nz/funding-and-programmes/forestry/one-billion-trees-programme/progress-towards-planting-one-billion-trees/tracking-planting-for-the-one-billion-trees-programme/ https://www.teururakau.govt.nz/funding-and-programmes/forest...
- robocat 6y ago
  Current farmed count of exotic trees in NZ is a bit more than 500 million by my calcs. Figures from Internet: 1.7 million hectares of exotics planted in NZ. 300 stems per hectare at ~30yrs old once thinned. 1000 stems per hectare when planted.

simonsarris 6y ago

> (at best we have 10 more years) why does that sound familiar https://apnews.com/article/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0 https://apnews.com/article/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0 > (1989) A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000. > He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.

fastball 6y ago
Yeah, at this point climate change has kinda become nuclear fusion – always 10 years away from the end. Not that we shouldn't do anything, because climate change is real. It would just be nice if people could stop being so fire and brimstone about stuff that turns out not to be the end of the world after all (like ACB getting confirmed to SCOTUS). The society that cried wolf.
- dgritsko 6y ago
  I mean, Barrett was sworn in less than a week ago. Regardless of how you feel about her, it's far too early to make any kind of judgement about the implications of her confirmation.
  - fastball 6y ago
    There is no possible way the implications will be anywhere near the level of dire that you'd believe after reading the news articles and seeing people's internet comments and tweets. I mean, people are talking about an overturn of Roe v. Wade, somehow failing to realize that RvW was ruled on by a SCOTUS with a conservative majority. If Obergefell gets overturned (it won't), an actual law can be passed this time, hell maybe even a constitutional amendment, since nearly a supermajority of Americans outright support gay marriage.
    - wycy 6y ago
      The concern is less that Roe v Wade will be overturned outright so much as it will be de facto overturned by death by a thousand cuts. Dozens of abortion-rights cases are heading toward the Supreme Court, and Mississippi's attempt to pass a 15-week abortion ban is just the start.

forgotmypw17 6y ago

Is there any known about viability of all these planted trees? What percentage of them "make it"? Anecdotally, I've seen a good portion of trees planted near other wooded areas not make it for one reason or another. I think the planters had already lost trees in the past to deer, because they had plastic guards around the stalks. However, many only lived for a couple of years and dried up. It makes me sad to think about it.

quixoticelixer- 6y ago
Doing it properly you should get about 80%, however a lot of the time it's not done properly.
- swader999 6y ago
  This is about right. This eighty percent will also create seed cones through their life.

hobby-coder-guy 6y ago

10 more years?