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Oof. Red lights on the front are illegal because those go on the back. Blue lights are illegal on any vehicle that isn’t police. Green lights I believe are also
by IgorPartola 6y ago
Oof. Red lights on the front are illegal because those go on the back. Blue lights are illegal on any vehicle that isn’t police. Green lights I believe are also illegal.
- moron4hire 6y agoOnly when used on public roads
- IgorPartola 6y agoTrue. But read the very first sentence of the article.
- moron4hire 6y agoThey're selectable. I'm sure the author has no intention of using the colors while in the road.
- NikolaNovak 6y agoBased on... What exactly? :-) Tons enough people with both safe and reasonable, and Crazt and illegal mods out there :-/
- moron4hire 6y agoBased on site guidelines asking people to assume good intentions in others. Based on believing individuals should have the liberty to do what they want, as long as they aren't harming someone. Based on thinking people should be free to post their projects without having some internet rando come in, looking for an opportunity to prove how wrong they are.
- NikolaNovak 6y agoHmm, I agree with between 50% to 66% of that: * "Assume good intentions" - fair enough :). I'll agree with that noble posture. * "Free to post without randos commenting" - mmhm... if you don't want internet randos to comment, don't post it to internet randos. To a certain degree, the whole point of posting it to the intertubes rather than emailing it to close friends & family, is to reach internet randos :-/ * "Based on believing individuals should have the liberty to do what they want, as long as they aren't harming someone" - I fully agree in principle, but I also 100% believe that red forward lights are in fact "harming someone". As I pointed in a sibling comment, I don't believe that's a rule that's there for funzies. "Principle of least astonishment" is crucial in driving, and drivers have lifetime of reflexes based on "White lights are coming to me, red lights are moving away from me / braking". Can you imagine being on a lonely country two lane road, and then some red lights are coming your way in the opposite lane? Etc etc... scenarios are not difficult to figure out.
- moron4hire 6y agoIt's also not difficult to figure out scenarios in which he would never use red lights on public roads, but might use them at private events, like shows. Given the lack of evidence that OP is an idiot, I'm going with the assumption that he's not going to run forward running red lights in public. I'm going to assume the only reason the color is changeable is to show off for fun. BTW, your paraphrasing of my comment on random commentators is a mischaracterization. I'm not talking about all random commentors. Just the ones who can't see past their noses far enough to know their criticism is not universal.
- IgorPartola 6y agoI can’t speak for the author but lots and lots of people who do these mods, do them with the intention of using them.
- moron4hire 6y agoLots of people who do these kind of mods show their vehicles at shows or local meets.
- TylerE 6y agoJust like all those people with “off road” (no muffler) exhausts, right?
- moron4hire 6y agoYeah, swapping mufflers is totally the same level of effort as using a smartphone app to configure the light colors. So clearly this guy totally intends to cause mayhem on the streets.
- IgorPartola 6y agoIf you haven’t swapped mufflers, you probably assume it is more complicated. It takes 10 minutes, 8 of which is finding your tools.
- moron4hire 6y agoI have, actually, which is why I already knew it's that long, which is still an order of magnitude faster than changing the color of some lights in an app.
- loeg 6y agoIt seems unlikely you'd own a CBR 1000RR (this is a high-end sports bike, $17k new[1], top speed north of 200 mph) and not drive it on public roads. [1]: https://powersports.honda.com/street/supersport/cbr1000rr https://powersports.honda.com/street/supersport/cbr1000rr
- mdoms 6y agoThis is a very common dedicated track bike, but at that point you remove all lights entirely.
- dharmab 6y agoMore typically you cover the lights with masking tape. Its cheaper.
- mdoms 6y agoFor a road bike on the track, yet. For a dedicated track bike no, you remove the lights.
- dharmab 6y agoOnly for a true race bike. For a track bike, why spend the money and make it harder to sell later?
- mdoms 6y agoI don't know anyone who has a dedicated track bike with headlights, lol. No track bike will be re-sold as a road bike, especially not something as serious as a CBR 1000RR. Once they're set up for the track with no headlights/indicators/brake lights, race exhaust, rear seat/pegs/brackets removed, number plate holders and various other brackets removed, slicks fitted, fairings painted etc etc they're too far gone to b re-sold for the road. No to mention most guys with dedicated track bikes are pouring thousands into them, not penny pinching on $35 headlight blanking panels.
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- the_only_law 6y agoI remember a year ago I got in a lyft and the driver talked about the little light they had given him. Apparently the first color it was set to got him pulled over by a rather confrontational officer.
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- Rumudiez 6y agoIn his first paragraph he says he wants to improve the visibility of his forward blinkers, so I feel this critique is undue. Like another poster said, I’m sure his only intention is to use them in an amber hue. Many LEDs on the market happen to support RGB – it’s okay to have a little fun with the available features in development.
- IgorPartola 6y agoTrue. But since the author didn’t discuss these nuances and people reading this might be tempted to make the same mod, it’s prudent to bring up this point lest someone else isn’t aware of them. From experience in these discussions on e.g. /r/motorcycles people who do these mods are unaware of these issues until someone points them out in about 3 out of every four posts and the 1 our of 4 will often state that they don’t care because they can outrun the cops on a 1000cc sport bike anyways.
- NikolaNovak 6y agoAnd dangerous. There are things that are formally illegal that we can argue merits of. But red light on the front is just a no go from any sensible perspective :-( Note - I have a heavily nodded Soobie that's a lot of fun - I'm not at all claiming we shouldn't enjoy tinkering with our toys. But I also made myself familiar with Ontario highway act to ensure anything I do is safe and legal.
- IgorPartola 6y agoAgreed. It’s the same as with all those low profile turn signals that are basically on top of each other. There is a reason most jurisdictions require something like at least 12” between the turn signals to make it easier to tell which one is on.
- zionic 6y agoDepends on state. In my state red is legal on the front if it never flashes, same with green.
- inamberclad 6y agoDepends on the state. Here in Texas, many construction vehicles will have yellow and blue lights.
- adverbly 6y ago> Green lights I believe are also illegal. for R/G colourblind I guess?
- IgorPartola 6y agoBecause it can easily look like a green traffic light. You might not think it’s a problem because traffic lights are normally not that low but at night on a street with no streetlights and with a hill involved...
- waste_monk 6y agoIts usage is geographically specific, but this article [1] is a decent starting place. Green is commonly used to indicate that a particular vehicle is the command post for an incident, e.g. for fire fighting. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_vehicle_lighting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_vehicle_lighting
- packetlost 6y agoJust being capable of other colors isn't itself illegal, if he runs with white or amber in the front it's perfectly fine.
- sandworm101 6y agoThat depends on which cop is evaluating you. Once a ticket is issued, great deference is given to the officer's judgement. Ask anyone with a heavily modified vehicle: rules are often secondary to the officers personal opinion. Personally, I got stopped more than once, ticketed once, for my bone-stock exhaust on my vfr2000. All I ever did was give it a good polish.
- packetlost 6y agoIf he's only running amber or white, there's nothing illegal going on. There isn't even a reason for them to be pulled over. It's also possible your exhaust is illegal in your jurisdiction, many places have decibel @ distance requirements for exhaust and vehicle noise, which your exhaust may outside of even if it's stock.
- northwest65 6y agoThat seems unlikely, given the bike (stock VFR exhaust are very modest, quite suitable for touring, your suggestion is ignorant and frankly insulting to the poster). Many places the rules specifically state that OEM exhausts are legal regardless of how they test. I've always presumed that's the case because Ducati and Lamborghini owners are sufficiently cashed up to ensure legislation is written to accommodate them.
- packetlost 6y ago> That seems unlikely, given the bike (stock VFR exhaust are very modest, quite suitable for touring, your suggestion is ignorant and frankly insulting to the poster) Forgive me for know knowing the exact noise levels of a specific motorcycle exhaust /s Even if you're within explicit noise limits, many states also have laws about 'disturbing the peace' that you can be ticketed for regardless of actual noise, in particular when done intentionally such as revving while in neutral/clutched. > Many places the rules specifically state that OEM exhausts are legal regardless of how they test. Some, but not all. In Wisconsin, the only thing that matters is that it's "not louder than stock". In Florida, you cannot exceed a specific decibel rating at a specific distance regardless of stock dbA [0]. > I've always presumed that's the case because Ducati and Lamborghini owners are sufficiently cashed up to ensure legislation is written to accommodate them. Maybe in some states. Many explicitly exclude motorcycles from exhaust noise limits as well. [0]: https://www.semasan.com/resources/exhaust-noise-laws-state#Florida https://www.semasan.com/resources/exhaust-noise-laws-state#F...
- pibechorro 6y agoOk mom.