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It's kind of mystifying why a company would go to the trouble of having AI-based soccer camera to begin with. I can't imagine that the training and maintenance

It's kind of mystifying why a company would go to the trouble of having AI-based soccer camera to begin with. I can't imagine that the training and maintenance of such a system could be cheaper than the pay of a single camera person and I don't remember ordinary camera people having much trouble following the ball in soccer. Which is to say, while current ML/AI may work well for some things, for other things, it will be abandoned as a fad unless there's some fundamental improvement.

recursivecaveat 6y ago
I can imagine it being cheaper if there's a 3rd party who just leases it to you as a push-button system, and they service a bunch of teams. On the other hand it does seem incredibly penny wise and pound foolish of management. Broadcasting is like half of a pro sports team's revenue in a normal, non-lockdown year. Why you would entrust that to an AI just to eliminate a single, semi-skilled laborer is beyond me.
- LexGray 6y ago
  Modern sports do not have just a few cameras. With the tech there can be a hundred perspectives. Soccer used to be a few cams covering the whole field. Ai should be able to predict power and angles of the kick for the most exciting framing making for better experiences.
  - gentleman11 6y ago
    Or nonsensical drifting into the bleachers to look at an unusually round baby
  - recursivecaveat 6y ago
    I thought about that but the video from the article seems to be only a single camera. If there's really only one running, then that seems like an odd choice in and off itself. Perhaps only one malfunctioned because it's closer to that particular lineman.
  - Agentlien 6y ago
    Even in sport games where there's no risk of mistaking something else for the ball you still get really strange dramatic angles in play backs.
faeyanpiraat 6y ago
Well it takes time for a technology to get better. Eventually it will get better and cheaper than a human operator. But it's like that with lots of things, for example humans. It's like looking at a kid, and saying "it cannot even walk, it will never become a good cameraman".
tpetry 6y ago
The reason for this innovation is easy: covid-19 Many countries have restrictions on games. No fans allowed and the personal supporting a game has to be reduced to an unsustainable low minimum with a very high-effort hygienic concept. This may sound strange for americans but is the current norm in most countries. So if you are allowed less and less people as covid-19 gets worse you are in search of solutions. And as there are many camera men to record the game from different angles why not comply with these restrictions by replacing them with ai...
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recursivecaveat 6y ago

I can imagine it being cheaper if there's a 3rd party who just leases it to you as a push-button system, and they service a bunch of teams. On the other hand it does seem incredibly penny wise and pound foolish of management. Broadcasting is like half of a pro sports team's revenue in a normal, non-lockdown year. Why you would entrust that to an AI just to eliminate a single, semi-skilled laborer is beyond me.

LexGray 6y ago
Modern sports do not have just a few cameras. With the tech there can be a hundred perspectives. Soccer used to be a few cams covering the whole field. Ai should be able to predict power and angles of the kick for the most exciting framing making for better experiences.
- gentleman11 6y ago
  Or nonsensical drifting into the bleachers to look at an unusually round baby
- recursivecaveat 6y ago
  I thought about that but the video from the article seems to be only a single camera. If there's really only one running, then that seems like an odd choice in and off itself. Perhaps only one malfunctioned because it's closer to that particular lineman.
- Agentlien 6y ago
  Even in sport games where there's no risk of mistaking something else for the ball you still get really strange dramatic angles in play backs.

faeyanpiraat 6y ago

Well it takes time for a technology to get better. Eventually it will get better and cheaper than a human operator. But it's like that with lots of things, for example humans. It's like looking at a kid, and saying "it cannot even walk, it will never become a good cameraman".

tpetry 6y ago

The reason for this innovation is easy: covid-19 Many countries have restrictions on games. No fans allowed and the personal supporting a game has to be reduced to an unsustainable low minimum with a very high-effort hygienic concept. This may sound strange for americans but is the current norm in most countries. So if you are allowed less and less people as covid-19 gets worse you are in search of solutions. And as there are many camera men to record the game from different angles why not comply with these restrictions by replacing them with ai...

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