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why not go halfway? AKA DST - 0:30

voisin 6y ago
It isn’t a negotiation over how much to change. It is a debate as to whether it should change at all. And no one seems to be arguing that it should still change. This is just lack of political will to push the legislation.
- vaccinator 6y ago
  in that case, lets just go to universal time and let businesses tell you what time to come in
  - swebs 6y ago
    I'm in favor of a full global switch to TAI. UTC is another good option, but I don't really see the benefit of keeping up with leap seconds considering the complexity they add. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Atomic_Time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Atomic_Time
- ghaff 6y ago
  Perhaps no one likes changing. But I bet, especially in mid-northern latitudes, that a lot of people really don't like having to choose between: - sending kids to school, driving, and doing outdoor work in winter pitch black and - having the sun streaming through windows at 4am in the summer at the cost of an hour of long summer evening even less appealing.
  - novia 6y ago
    You do know that institutions such as schools can change the time they start, right?
    - ghaff 6y ago
      It actually can be quite difficult as school start time isn't independent of many other schedules, including school buses picking up other grades starting later. So, no, they can't necessarily. Kids going to school in the dark was one of the major reasons cited for not renewing the all-year DST experiment. I suppose you could find a way to change or just give them flashlights but, in any case, it was a public issue in the past.
      - novia 6y ago
        Typically this is something that would be changed on the scale of the school system of a county. That resolves the school bus issue. As far as kids being picked up in the dark.. again, the school system can change start times during certain parts of the year so that doesn't happen.
- Dylan16807 6y ago
  When the argument is specifically about disruption, you could solve that by shifting the clock in 10 or 15 minute increments, weeks apart.

It isn’t a negotiation over how much to change. It is a debate as to whether it should change at all. And no one seems to be arguing that it should still change. This is just lack of political will to push the legislation.

vaccinator 6y ago
in that case, lets just go to universal time and let businesses tell you what time to come in
- swebs 6y ago
  I'm in favor of a full global switch to TAI. UTC is another good option, but I don't really see the benefit of keeping up with leap seconds considering the complexity they add. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Atomic_Time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Atomic_Time
ghaff 6y ago
Perhaps no one likes changing. But I bet, especially in mid-northern latitudes, that a lot of people really don't like having to choose between: - sending kids to school, driving, and doing outdoor work in winter pitch black and - having the sun streaming through windows at 4am in the summer at the cost of an hour of long summer evening even less appealing.
- novia 6y ago
  You do know that institutions such as schools can change the time they start, right?
  - ghaff 6y ago
    It actually can be quite difficult as school start time isn't independent of many other schedules, including school buses picking up other grades starting later. So, no, they can't necessarily. Kids going to school in the dark was one of the major reasons cited for not renewing the all-year DST experiment. I suppose you could find a way to change or just give them flashlights but, in any case, it was a public issue in the past.
    - novia 6y ago
      Typically this is something that would be changed on the scale of the school system of a county. That resolves the school bus issue. As far as kids being picked up in the dark.. again, the school system can change start times during certain parts of the year so that doesn't happen.
Dylan16807 6y ago
When the argument is specifically about disruption, you could solve that by shifting the clock in 10 or 15 minute increments, weeks apart.