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According to the article, this phenomenon is most obviously manifested in the humorous expression “own the libs”, and not, say, by shrieking scaremongering abou
by Tycho 6y ago
According to the article, this phenomenon is most obviously manifested in the humorous expression “own the libs”, and not, say, by shrieking scaremongering about fascism and comparing the other side to the Nazis.
- hartator 6y agoDo you mean this article about political polarization is polarized against one side? :)
- whodidntante 6y agoWell, I know you are being sarcastic, but my initial impression of the article was that while I agreed with everything the author stated, I felt the author was no where as subtle as she thought she was in herself promoting this polarization by what was left out. All of the examples were one sided (and imo true, with many worse ones left unmentioned), while there was no mention of the elephant - the world view that all members of a certain race are racist by definition, and that all interactions between races are, by definition, based on race, no matter what the context. How is this not demonizing the "other" ? My fear is that what used to be disagreements over what rights an individual has (who to marry, what to do in your personal space, what if any deities to bow before, what you are able to do with your own body) have turned into disagreements over what framework we should use to govern our society. Individual rights, imo, need to be respected, and can be done without infringing on anyone else. However, the current undercurrent of how we should govern ourselves as a society (marxism vs capitalism) is something that we all, as a society, need to abide by, and that differences in these views, historically, has been settled through war.
- toiletfuneral 6y ago“Forced hysterectomies to own the libs”
- Waterluvian 6y agoThe interesting thing is that the claims about fascism at least have the possibility of being true while "owning the libs" betrays its own disingenuous purpose of not even trying to make a point other than winning against the other team.
- Tycho 6y ago“own the libs” is satire, it’s not literally the political platform
- Waterluvian 6y agoNot exactly a useful claim given it can be made by anyone for any portion of their "team" they're embeeassed by. The core problem is that America uses a two party system and that can only result in heavy partisanship.
- Tycho 6y agoOne side has prominent interlocutors who routinely call the other side racists, Nazis, and harbingers of fascism in the United States, demanding their “de-platforming”. The other side sees this as hysterical nonsense spouted by sanctimonious hypocrites and people blind to reality, who deserve to be mocked, hence “own the libs.” These two sides are not equivalent. One is doing a lot more “othering”. The real equivalent would be some sort of Red Scare accusing the other side of being infiltrated by freedom-hating communist spies, demanding their removal from all institutions and positions of power.
- dsr_ 6y agoThere are concentration camps run by the United States government.
- dsr_ 6y agoIf you're downvoting this, you had better have proof that there are no concentration camps run by the United States government. Please show it to us. Otherwise, I accept your downvote as proof that facts are not relevant to you.
- thinkingemote 6y agoPlease read the sites rules about downvotes.
- dTal 6y agoWell yes, there's a wide gulf between voicing concerns about conduct and rhetoric, and being combative simply for the joy of watching your opponent suffer.
- empthought 6y agoOne side has literal Nazis marching for it, yelling “Jews will not replace us,” though...
- mnd999 6y agoI think most people on both “sides” find that unacceptable.
- empthought 6y agoThey do not. Only one American political party needs white supremacist votes in order to be elected. Only one.
- bsenftner 6y agoThan why have the GOP not not denounced them? Their silence is approval of the Nazis.
- knaq 6y agoIt's time for a fact check: https://finepeople.org/ https://finepeople.org/ The short video at the bottom of the page is particularly interesting.
- aetimmes 6y agoBut (at least in the US) the leader of one side doesn't - not enough to condemn it.
- yaakov34 6y agoAnd the other side attacked actual Jews with rocks and bottles recently. What, that's not "your side"? Neither are those guys "their side".
- ulucs 6y agoWhat happened? Antifa?
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