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I hate to repeat my self but this articles keep piling up. Vote with your money first, then if you have a way search legislative measures. They will never stop

by nbzso 6y ago

I hate to repeat my self but this articles keep piling up. Vote with your money first, then if you have a way search legislative measures. They will never stop to search a way to profit more. This is just a beginning. Fully closed macs are coming. I don't care anymore for iPhones, my professional problem is with apple desktops and laptops. If we follow Apple logic in near future I will have to Jailbreak my personal computer that costs arm and a leg and cannot do 3rd party repairs on it. I am filling now very good about the decision to invest in multi platform software and avoid mac only apps. On a phone side someone suggested Fairphone (https://www.fairphone.com/en/ https://www.fairphone.com/en/) as an alternative. I can see a lot a value in this proposition, after rooting and removing Google crap/spyware.

speeder 6y ago
I wish Fairphone and their german competitor existed in Brazil. My last Android phones all of them failed in ways that were obvioous and simple to repair if it weren't for the fact they were glued shut.
e_proxus 6y ago
There aren’t many (if any) realistic options. It basically boils down to Apple, Android or some extremely niche third party special phone (Fairphone etc.) which are mostly Android anyway. So either you pay Apple for premium hardware and software quality but loose out on repairability. Or you get Android which is a potential or actual privacy nightmare. Or you get an obscure other phone which is less supported and usually not as good value for money. The only thing that can really fix these problems is proper regulation. That’s the only language these companies understand.
- alisonkisk 6y ago
  And how will you feel if after legislation phones cost even more TCO than they do now?
  - benhurmarcel 6y ago
    The price of those phones don't follow their cost. They are purely down how high they can market them.
- ryukafalz 6y ago
  > Or you get an obscure other phone which is less supported and usually not as good value for money. This is self-reinforcing though; non-iOS/Android phones aren’t going to be more widely supported unless people start buying them.
- tartoran 6y ago
  Have you looked at the Pinephone? It’s not ready for primetime but it appears to become a nice option

by nbzso 6y ago

speeder 6y ago

I wish Fairphone and their german competitor existed in Brazil. My last Android phones all of them failed in ways that were obvioous and simple to repair if it weren't for the fact they were glued shut.

e_proxus 6y ago

There aren’t many (if any) realistic options. It basically boils down to Apple, Android or some extremely niche third party special phone (Fairphone etc.) which are mostly Android anyway. So either you pay Apple for premium hardware and software quality but loose out on repairability. Or you get Android which is a potential or actual privacy nightmare. Or you get an obscure other phone which is less supported and usually not as good value for money. The only thing that can really fix these problems is proper regulation. That’s the only language these companies understand.

alisonkisk 6y ago
And how will you feel if after legislation phones cost even more TCO than they do now?
- benhurmarcel 6y ago
  The price of those phones don't follow their cost. They are purely down how high they can market them.
ryukafalz 6y ago
> Or you get an obscure other phone which is less supported and usually not as good value for money. This is self-reinforcing though; non-iOS/Android phones aren’t going to be more widely supported unless people start buying them.
tartoran 6y ago
Have you looked at the Pinephone? It’s not ready for primetime but it appears to become a nice option