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Do you think it’s possible to empathize with people who are harassed, or experience harassment, and oppose codes of conduct? Assume that empathy includes caring
by 1123581321 6y ago
Do you think it’s possible to empathize with people who are harassed, or experience harassment, and oppose codes of conduct? Assume that empathy includes caring about protecting people.
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- diehunde 6y agoSounds like "I empathize with them but I don't care about protecting them"
- 1123581321 6y agoThanks. I edited to clarify empathy includes caring about protecting them.
- andybak 6y agoNot to me it doesn't. I'm on the fence on this issue but it's sounds like you're willfully misreading that statement.
- Veen 6y agoTo me it sounds like: "I empathize and care, but I don't think CoCs are the best way to solve the problem because they i) don't solve the problem and ii) bring about harmful unintended consequences".
- notJim 6y agoI think it is, but what alternative is there? CoCs were created for a reason, so simply getting rid of them feels like it would lead us back to where we started.
- tchaffee 6y agoPeople don't want empathy. They want solutions that fix the existing and long-standing problems. Lacking a better solution, CoCs are here to stay. So if you really oppose CoCs, the burden of creating a better solution is on you.
- 1123581321 6y agoIf you’re referring to me personally, I agree with you. The groups I personally organized have arrived at that better resolution, as we of course did see our responsibility there. However, we have not arrived at a solution that can be quickly communicated to other groups, which is the strength of CoCs as they can be copied and adopted without much thought (not saying that pejoratively.) Strongly disagree that empathy is unwanted, though; perhaps you are laboring under a narrow definition. Empathy cannot coexist with inaction.