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>Adding the (partial?) equations of the path integral and/or the matrices would allow for an actual understanding without the confining nature of human words.

• MichaelZuo 6y ago
  "But in terms of making sense of black holes, this is at most the end of the beginning. Theorists still haven’t mapped the step-by-step process whereby information gets out. “We now can compute the Page curve, and I don’t know why,” said Raphael Bousso at Berkeley." So it does not seem that the physicists fully understand their calculation results either. Edit: here's the arxiv link: https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.11977 https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.11977
  • pdonis 6y ago
    Thanks for the link. I find it very frustrating when pop science magazines refuse to link to the actual paper. I don't want to read their attempt to put what the paper says into layman's language; their attempts are usually way off. I want to read the actual paper. Edit: I was finally able to find links to actual papers in the article: https://arxiv.org/abs/1810.02055 https://arxiv.org/abs/1810.02055 https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.08255 https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.08255 https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.08762 https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.08762 https://arxiv.org/abs/1908.10996 https://arxiv.org/abs/1908.10996 https://arxiv.org/abs/2002.08950 https://arxiv.org/abs/2002.08950 https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.05863 https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.05863 These appear to be the papers giving the various calculations the article discusses. There are also links to some previous work that was built on: https://arxiv.org/abs/0804.0055 https://arxiv.org/abs/0804.0055 https://arxiv.org/pdf/1304.4926 https://arxiv.org/pdf/1304.4926 https://arxiv.org/abs/1408.3203 https://arxiv.org/abs/1408.3203
    • deeeeplearning 6y ago
      For what it's worth I find these criticisms have little value. If your brain is so big that you find reading Quanta beneath you then why are you reading Quanta at all? Just read Arxiv or Nature or Physical Review D and shut up.
      • pdonis 6y ago
        > If your brain is so big that you find reading Quanta beneath you then why are you reading Quanta at all? I'm not. I only found out about this through HN, so all I had to start with was the Quanta article since that's all that HN linked to. > Just read Arxiv or Nature or Physical Review D and shut up Please save your insults for someone who has asked for them.
        • refulgentis 6y ago
          > Please save your insults for someone who has asked for them. frankly, you did - other than links, your post consists of a unprompted, charged, polemic insisting that you refuse to read the article being discussed. This is especially uncouth given you effectively stepped into a room that says on the door "Group Assembled To Comment on Article"
      • bryanrasmussen 6y ago
        I find the criticism had a lot of value because they pointed out all the proper arxiv resources related to the article. I think it should be a top rated comment directly under the article posting.
  • warent 6y ago
    I'm a layperson. Does this mean there's no firewall but they don't know how?
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