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Those issues could be addressed in the article. In open debate. That's the way the first amendment works. There are reasons to not think its purely garbage st

by starkd 6y ago

Those issues could be addressed in the article. In open debate. That's the way the first amendment works. There are reasons to not think its purely garbage storage, as many have pointed out. Not to mention a business partner, and someone who was sentenced to jail who has released their gmail account to the public.

thrill 6y ago
The first amendment has nothing to do with activities outside Congress making laws.
- watermelonhead 6y ago
  Lol, hiding under this rubbish argument to censor everything that you dont like. Incredible
- starkd 6y ago
  huh? it's an inalienable right of us all. It either applies to all of us or it is meaningless.
  - throwaway2048 6y ago
    So if the intercept refuses to publish my story, they are infringing upon my first amendment rights?
  - ghaff 6y ago
    You might want to actually read the first amendment: Congress shall make no law [emphasis added] respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. (In various ways that aren't very relevant to the current discussion, this generally applies to states as well.)
- xref 6y ago
  You’ve gotten some downvotes so figure I’d paste the actual text of the first amendment here so people know exactly what you’re referring to: > Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
ceejayoz 6y ago
> Those issues could be addressed in the article. In open debate. We learned this doesn't work all that well with the Comey letter eleven days before the 2016 election. "We've reopened the Hillary investigation" turned into "oops, nothing new" a few days after the election. "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes."
- starkd 6y ago
  Biden could have addressed this story months ago. He knew about it. You'd think the democrats would have learned not to nominate a second clinton who refuses questions. They still think its easy to stomp on a story than address it.
  - ivalm 6y ago
    What do you mean he knew about it months ago? The point is that this is all just a fabrication, there is no story to address.
    - noxer 6y ago
      You really hope it is dont you? I would suggest you to go and read some "news pages" from the dark side, the ones you dont agree with. The evidences are overwhelming. You can literally find Biden Hunter porn by now on the web because some stuff has leaked. Ofc its all fabricated by the people who fabricated the laptop and phones and 3000 emails and instant messages and what not. Must be Russia or China behind it except none of them have any interest in harming the Biden campaign.
    - noxer 6y ago
      I get flagged what a surprise. HN once again shows is bias. Anyway the evidences are out there. Everyone who wants to see them can. The rest should enjoy their bubble for now. Its gonna pop sooner or later.
  - ceejayoz 6y ago
    > Biden could have addressed this story months ago. If the story is true. If it's a fabrication - as they allege, and given that Fox News passed on it (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/fox-news-hunter-biden-emails-story-new-york-post-giuliani-b1161800.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-electio...) and the Post's reporter didn't want his byline on it (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/18/business/media/new-york-post-hunter-biden.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/18/business/media/new-york-p...), seems reasonably likely - they didn't hear about it until last week.
tzs 6y ago
> Those issues could be addressed in the article. In open debate. It's a non-tabloid newspaper. What I want and expect from such a publication is to only see stories for which the basic underlying facts have already been verified. There might still be disagreements over the implications of those facts and how to act on them, which I want and expect to see covered.

by starkd 6y ago

thrill 6y ago

The first amendment has nothing to do with activities outside Congress making laws.

watermelonhead 6y ago
Lol, hiding under this rubbish argument to censor everything that you dont like. Incredible
starkd 6y ago
huh? it's an inalienable right of us all. It either applies to all of us or it is meaningless.
- throwaway2048 6y ago
  So if the intercept refuses to publish my story, they are infringing upon my first amendment rights?
- ghaff 6y ago
  You might want to actually read the first amendment: Congress shall make no law [emphasis added] respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. (In various ways that aren't very relevant to the current discussion, this generally applies to states as well.)
xref 6y ago
You’ve gotten some downvotes so figure I’d paste the actual text of the first amendment here so people know exactly what you’re referring to: > Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

ceejayoz 6y ago

> Those issues could be addressed in the article. In open debate. We learned this doesn't work all that well with the Comey letter eleven days before the 2016 election. "We've reopened the Hillary investigation" turned into "oops, nothing new" a few days after the election. "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes."

starkd 6y ago
Biden could have addressed this story months ago. He knew about it. You'd think the democrats would have learned not to nominate a second clinton who refuses questions. They still think its easy to stomp on a story than address it.
- ivalm 6y ago
  What do you mean he knew about it months ago? The point is that this is all just a fabrication, there is no story to address.
  - noxer 6y ago
    You really hope it is dont you? I would suggest you to go and read some "news pages" from the dark side, the ones you dont agree with. The evidences are overwhelming. You can literally find Biden Hunter porn by now on the web because some stuff has leaked. Ofc its all fabricated by the people who fabricated the laptop and phones and 3000 emails and instant messages and what not. Must be Russia or China behind it except none of them have any interest in harming the Biden campaign.
  - noxer 6y ago
    I get flagged what a surprise. HN once again shows is bias. Anyway the evidences are out there. Everyone who wants to see them can. The rest should enjoy their bubble for now. Its gonna pop sooner or later.
- ceejayoz 6y ago
  > Biden could have addressed this story months ago. If the story is true. If it's a fabrication - as they allege, and given that Fox News passed on it (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/fox-news-hunter-biden-emails-story-new-york-post-giuliani-b1161800.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-electio...) and the Post's reporter didn't want his byline on it (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/18/business/media/new-york-post-hunter-biden.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/18/business/media/new-york-p...), seems reasonably likely - they didn't hear about it until last week.

tzs 6y ago

> Those issues could be addressed in the article. In open debate. It's a non-tabloid newspaper. What I want and expect from such a publication is to only see stories for which the basic underlying facts have already been verified. There might still be disagreements over the implications of those facts and how to act on them, which I want and expect to see covered.