Well they're different, right? R provides an interface to dataframes and matrices, whereas numpy is just for matrices (and their generalisations, arrrays). I t

Well they're different, right? R provides an interface to dataframes and matrices, whereas numpy is just for matrices (and their generalisations, arrrays). I think the appropriate comparison is between base R and Numpy + pandas. (FWIW, I agree with your major point, but then I learned R first so that may be biasing me).