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This is great! I was ready to update to an RTX 30-series card once they were finally available, but now I'm strongly considering a RX 6000-series card. Of cour

This is great! I was ready to update to an RTX 30-series card once they were finally available, but now I'm strongly considering a RX 6000-series card. Of course, even if AMD's benchmarks are representative of how the card will actually perform and even with the lower price, I still have to consider Nvidia for their software features. Shadow Play, G-Sync, and RTX Voice are some nice features. Not to mention DLSS... With the $1000 price tag on the RX 6900 XT, though, I think Nvidia would be crazy to not lower the price of the RTX 3090.

djsumdog 6y ago
We'll have to wait for the benchmarks and YouTube videos. What if the new AMD cards look amazing without DLSS and have comparable framerates? I current have a small-form-factor case with a 2080-Ti in it. As it stand, the biggest nVidia card I can put in would be the 3080. I'm curious if the 6900 XT is a two slot design, or if it's massive like the 8090 with the three slot requirement.
- moonbas3 6y ago
  It's 2.5 slots and shorter than the 3090. https://twitter.com/Radeon/status/1321590889396002816/photo/1 https://twitter.com/Radeon/status/1321590889396002816/photo/...
snvzz 6y ago
>Shadow Play, G-Sync, and RTX Voice are some nice features. Not to mention DLSS... AIUI AMD has their own alternatives to all of these (minus RTX Voice, which I hadn't even heard about until your mention). I do not know how good they are, but I expect there to not be much difference. As DLSS 2.0, they're supposedly releasing a competitor in next month's drivers.
- CivBase 6y ago
  I had not heard of ReLive until now, but it's nice to know that AMD has an alternative to ShadowPlay. FreeSync is an adaptive-sync solution, but it isn't a complete alternative to G-Sync. G-Sync displays require special hardware from Nvidia, must adhere to a series of certifications from Nvidia, and don't always support adaptive-sync at low framerates. RTX Voice is probably not super important for a lot of people. However, as someone who prefers to not wear headphones for long periods of time, it sounds like an extremely useful technology. And DLSS 2.0 is a pretty big deal for anyone with a 4K screen. I don't have a 4K monitor, but I regularly connect my computer to my 4K TV so I would probably leverage DLSS often. I hope AMD's upcoming solution is comparable, but I need to see it before I give them credit for it.
  - snvzz 6y ago
    >However, as someone who prefers to not wear headphones for long periods of time, it sounds like an extremely useful technology. Very random but: Have you considered full-sized open-back headphones? They're at least an order of magnitude better experience, in sound and comfort. I use/favor/recommend Sennheiser's HD600.
    - CivBase 6y ago
      I got some Sennheiser HD 380 Pros for the office a few years ago. They're comfortable and sound good for the price, but they get a bit too warm for me after a couple hours. I was avoiding open-backed headphones at the time because I've heard they leak audio and didn't want to annoy my coworkers. Now I work remote, so maybe I should re-consider open-backed headphones if they breath better. Thanks for the suggestion!
      - snvzz 6y ago
        >but they get a bit too warm for me after a couple hours. I use HD380 Pro at the office, too. They're comfortable for closed, but they still do get ears/head warm over time. This is in contrast to HD600. The sound is also like night and day difference. >I've heard they leak audio and didn't want to annoy my coworkers. At healthy (as in low and plenty sufficient) volumes this is not an issue. The reason I use closed headphones in the office is the other way around: I can hear my coworkers and they're louder than my music is. >so maybe I should re-consider open-backed headphones if they breath better. Thanks for the suggestion! You're welcome. I'm confident you can't go wrong with HD600, they're legendary all-rounder, neutral-tuned, uncolored headphones, and at their price they're a steal, but do watch/read some reviews before making the call, for your own sanity. Do note that HD650/660S are less neutral and near-universally considered worse by reviewers, on both subjective and objective (measurements) metrics, even when more expensive. And the lower end HD599/etc models aren't even comparable on a level field, in neither sound nor build. (HD600 are modular and built like tanks. The parts are compatible with 580/650/660S and sold individually, for the worst case and unlikely scenario of breaking anything) They're 300 to 600Ω impedance across the frequency range, so they do benefit greatly from a headphone amp, but will still sound great even from an anemic source. If you end up feeling like buying a dac/amp combo to get that extra, perceivable improvement, do look into "Audio Science Review (ASR)" community for no-bullshit hard measurement driven reviews. There's excellent solutions that do not break the bank, and a lot of hocus-pocus that measures like shit and yet has outrageous asking prices.

djsumdog 6y ago

We'll have to wait for the benchmarks and YouTube videos. What if the new AMD cards look amazing without DLSS and have comparable framerates? I current have a small-form-factor case with a 2080-Ti in it. As it stand, the biggest nVidia card I can put in would be the 3080. I'm curious if the 6900 XT is a two slot design, or if it's massive like the 8090 with the three slot requirement.

moonbas3 6y ago
It's 2.5 slots and shorter than the 3090. https://twitter.com/Radeon/status/1321590889396002816/photo/1 https://twitter.com/Radeon/status/1321590889396002816/photo/...

snvzz 6y ago

>Shadow Play, G-Sync, and RTX Voice are some nice features. Not to mention DLSS... AIUI AMD has their own alternatives to all of these (minus RTX Voice, which I hadn't even heard about until your mention). I do not know how good they are, but I expect there to not be much difference. As DLSS 2.0, they're supposedly releasing a competitor in next month's drivers.

CivBase 6y ago
I had not heard of ReLive until now, but it's nice to know that AMD has an alternative to ShadowPlay. FreeSync is an adaptive-sync solution, but it isn't a complete alternative to G-Sync. G-Sync displays require special hardware from Nvidia, must adhere to a series of certifications from Nvidia, and don't always support adaptive-sync at low framerates. RTX Voice is probably not super important for a lot of people. However, as someone who prefers to not wear headphones for long periods of time, it sounds like an extremely useful technology. And DLSS 2.0 is a pretty big deal for anyone with a 4K screen. I don't have a 4K monitor, but I regularly connect my computer to my 4K TV so I would probably leverage DLSS often. I hope AMD's upcoming solution is comparable, but I need to see it before I give them credit for it.
- snvzz 6y ago
  >However, as someone who prefers to not wear headphones for long periods of time, it sounds like an extremely useful technology. Very random but: Have you considered full-sized open-back headphones? They're at least an order of magnitude better experience, in sound and comfort. I use/favor/recommend Sennheiser's HD600.
  - CivBase 6y ago
    I got some Sennheiser HD 380 Pros for the office a few years ago. They're comfortable and sound good for the price, but they get a bit too warm for me after a couple hours. I was avoiding open-backed headphones at the time because I've heard they leak audio and didn't want to annoy my coworkers. Now I work remote, so maybe I should re-consider open-backed headphones if they breath better. Thanks for the suggestion!
    - snvzz 6y ago
      >but they get a bit too warm for me after a couple hours. I use HD380 Pro at the office, too. They're comfortable for closed, but they still do get ears/head warm over time. This is in contrast to HD600. The sound is also like night and day difference. >I've heard they leak audio and didn't want to annoy my coworkers. At healthy (as in low and plenty sufficient) volumes this is not an issue. The reason I use closed headphones in the office is the other way around: I can hear my coworkers and they're louder than my music is. >so maybe I should re-consider open-backed headphones if they breath better. Thanks for the suggestion! You're welcome. I'm confident you can't go wrong with HD600, they're legendary all-rounder, neutral-tuned, uncolored headphones, and at their price they're a steal, but do watch/read some reviews before making the call, for your own sanity. Do note that HD650/660S are less neutral and near-universally considered worse by reviewers, on both subjective and objective (measurements) metrics, even when more expensive. And the lower end HD599/etc models aren't even comparable on a level field, in neither sound nor build. (HD600 are modular and built like tanks. The parts are compatible with 580/650/660S and sold individually, for the worst case and unlikely scenario of breaking anything) They're 300 to 600Ω impedance across the frequency range, so they do benefit greatly from a headphone amp, but will still sound great even from an anemic source. If you end up feeling like buying a dac/amp combo to get that extra, perceivable improvement, do look into "Audio Science Review (ASR)" community for no-bullshit hard measurement driven reviews. There's excellent solutions that do not break the bank, and a lot of hocus-pocus that measures like shit and yet has outrageous asking prices.