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Please note that this is a single issue, early prototype license. Those are quite different from somewhat more normal custom build licenses for these kind of ve
by consp 6y ago
Please note that this is a single issue, early prototype license. Those are quite different from somewhat more normal custom build licenses for these kind of vehicles once they are entering limited production. This has not been approved for any other usage like limited production and is only valid for this specific vehicle. While this license is "European" there are lot of issues driving these kind of vehicles with this licenses across Europe legally.
Addendum: This means they cannot sell them yet as they first have to show production compliance. And have more stringent testing for those vehicles.
Addendum 2: It also has no aircraft license so flying is not an option.
- holstvoogd 6y agoFigured as much, IIRC a full type license takes dozens of cars to be produced and delivered for destructive testing. I just hope cars regulated better than the 'Stint' was, whatever that fall under.
- consp 6y agoThe car part is like any other car with respect to road legality (in this case an IGC, or individual license) and production compliance is the same as for all other limited production cars (regular 'typegoedkeuring'). The airplane part is a whole different ballpark. The stint was something different. Those were not tested as they were technically not cars and treated as mopeds which have very limited testing requirements as far as I know.
- Avtomatk 6y agoI feel that it is still too early to approve the use of this vehicle ... Not only does it need an aircraft and vehicle license, this car is a "hybrid car-plane" and its "transformation" from car to plane on the streets should also be regulated. (Imagine deploying and turning on those propellers in the middle of a narrow street, it would be necessary to take it to a heliport to transform it) apart from the control of the airspace and an endless number of other things (collisions with buildings?). It's the classic pre-"flying cars" regulation from science fiction stories.
- CPLX 6y agoAn interesting and non-obvious attribute of autogyros is that the large propeller on the top is actually not powered.
- Dansvidania 6y agowat? that is very interesting and incredibly non obvious.
- sfkdjf9j3j 6y agoYou can see the pusher prop on the back in one of the photos. Looks like fun
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- rkangel 6y agoI've linked this elsewhere in the discussion: https://xkcd.com/1972/ https://xkcd.com/1972/
- jeffreyrogers 6y agoThis sort of thinking coupled with increasing ease of litigation is why general aviation is more expensive in real terms than it was in the 70s.
- Avtomatk 6y agoAnd... is this (the regulations and standards) good or bad? It is good if you compare the number of air and car accidents before there were "regulatory licenses" and "industry standards" and now
- iguy 6y agoNot an expert, but I hear that one of the effects has been to slow down innovation. Because a newly designed plane (with a rescue parachute, and a modern engine) is so much more expensive than one from the 1950s (leaded gas, possibly with grandfathered certification) everyone keeps flying the old ones. Cars have had many iterations on safety since the '55 Chevy, but planes not so many.