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>Modern Egyptians have almost no dna connection to ancient Egyptians. That's just false. Modern Egyptians are quite clearly and cleanly descended from Bronze A

by Bayart 6y ago

>Modern Egyptians have almost no dna connection to ancient Egyptians. That's just false. Modern Egyptians are quite clearly and cleanly descended from Bronze Age Egyptians. There's quite a bit of African and Arabic input, but not to the point of the population being unrecognizable. It's nearly impossible to replace a settled, agricultural population with immigration. There needs to be active, systemic policy of ethnic purge. It would be a fair point to say they have little to no cultural connection to pre-Islamic Egypt, but bringing genetic into the mix is specious.

ralfd 6y ago
Did you read the linked article by parent poster? There could be maybe made an argument that Copts are the descendants of ancient Egyptians: https://mobile.twitter.com/bewilderedcopt/status/1081776356667678720 https://mobile.twitter.com/bewilderedcopt/status/10817763566...
- ummonk 6y ago
  All the linked article showed is that they gained 8% sub-saharan ancestry. That's not much of a shift.
- rozab 6y ago
  I've seen a lot of ethnonationalist rhetoric online by middle eastern christian groups stating that they are the true heirs to the region, and that this is justifiable by genetics. I would take such claims with a large wheelbarrow of salt. Looking further up that thread, someone else said: >And BTW the Coptic Christians in Egypt are the REAL Egyptians not Arab invaders.
  - teshier-A 6y ago
    It seems to be the scientific consensus. I personally don't think genetics carry any hereditary claim to a thousand years old culture but it always bothers me to see people go against state of the art scientific conclusions (unless they have good evidence of their own). >Copts share the same main ancestral component than North African and Middle East populations (dark blue), supporting a common origin with Egypt (or other North African/Middle Eastern populations). They are known to be the most ancient population of Egypt and at k = 4 (Fig.3), they show their own component (dark green) different from the current Egyptian population which is closer to the Arabic population of Qatar. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4446898/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4446898/

by Bayart 6y ago

ralfd 6y ago

Did you read the linked article by parent poster? There could be maybe made an argument that Copts are the descendants of ancient Egyptians: https://mobile.twitter.com/bewilderedcopt/status/1081776356667678720 https://mobile.twitter.com/bewilderedcopt/status/10817763566...

ummonk 6y ago
All the linked article showed is that they gained 8% sub-saharan ancestry. That's not much of a shift.
rozab 6y ago
I've seen a lot of ethnonationalist rhetoric online by middle eastern christian groups stating that they are the true heirs to the region, and that this is justifiable by genetics. I would take such claims with a large wheelbarrow of salt. Looking further up that thread, someone else said: >And BTW the Coptic Christians in Egypt are the REAL Egyptians not Arab invaders.
- teshier-A 6y ago
  It seems to be the scientific consensus. I personally don't think genetics carry any hereditary claim to a thousand years old culture but it always bothers me to see people go against state of the art scientific conclusions (unless they have good evidence of their own). >Copts share the same main ancestral component than North African and Middle East populations (dark blue), supporting a common origin with Egypt (or other North African/Middle Eastern populations). They are known to be the most ancient population of Egypt and at k = 4 (Fig.3), they show their own component (dark green) different from the current Egyptian population which is closer to the Arabic population of Qatar. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4446898/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4446898/