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Whatever the motivation, this is heinous. Why do people jump to replace safari on their laptops, and even their iPhones (often with chrome)? Even before I bec

Whatever the motivation, this is heinous. Why do people jump to replace safari on their laptops, and even their iPhones (often with chrome)? Even before I became aware, and strongly opposed to Google's advertising and privacy practices, I had been a Chrome user. I was on a long road trip and was frantically trying to solve a P1 for my company. My new laptop battery was was chunking downward at a staggering rate and I felt like I was trying to diffuse a bomb. I dug into the energy metrics and found that the culprit was, by and large, Chrome. Switching to Safari has made a huge improvement for me and I actually don't remember now why I was using chrome in the first place. Firefox and brave are excellent too, though they aren't default in the Apple ecosystem. I just don't understand why the draw to chrome and why it still commands such a large market share.

MikusR 6y ago
I just checked 6 laptops. None have Safari available. Also checked three smartphones - no Safari possible there also.
- benbristow 6y ago
  Were you by any chance looking at 6 non-Mac laptops and 3 non-iOS smartphones?
  - DharmaPolice 6y ago
    I suspect that may have been their point.
- falcolas 6y ago
  The sentence reads just as well with 'Edge' in place of Safari, and they call out iPhones quite explicitly. The snark does not take the parent's comment in good faith.
  - MikusR 6y ago
    Edge runs on Windows, Macos, Linux.
- eznzt 6y ago
  We get it, you are poor.
  - biryani_chicken 6y ago
    Choosing the best alternative rather than the most expensive doesn't mean one is poor.
hesarenu 6y ago
Why bother changing in iOS devices. Its just a skin on safari engine. No choices there.
- solarkraft 6y ago
  Integration. Your history is synced, your bookmarks are synced, your passwords are synced, I think your tabs can be too.
  - fred_is_fred 6y ago
    Firefox can do all this too if you really want, however, I absolutely do not want this - syncing between work persona (laptop) and home persona (phone).
    - sdwolfz 6y ago
      You can create a separate profile in Firefox by going to "about:profiles", desktop only (it looks ugly, and it's hard to use, I know, but it does work). This way you can have both personas on the same device without mixing them up. Too bad it does not work on mobile and the UX for it is so bad on desktop. It's a great feature that I wish Firefox invested in.
MattGaiser 6y ago
Mostly because I don't want to re-learn where buttons and settings are and how the dev tools work.
- Timpy 6y ago
  Firefox is my daily driver but I keep Chromium installed, sometimes I want FF dev tools and sometimes I want Chromium.
moksly 6y ago
I’m an avid safari user on iOS and Mac, and I suspect I’ll be an avid Edge user on Microsoft now that it’s basically a better chrome. I can see why people would want to switch it up. Especially if you use different operating systems, and want to synchronise your browser experience between them. Not having things synced has actually been a major advantage for me, as I use my phone and Mac very differently than I use my windows devices, but I can see why you wouldn’t want to run safari on Windows/Linux. Hell, these days I gotta say that I can see why you wouldn’t want to run Safari at all. It’s terrible at Disney plus, and others, and while that may be a Disney plus and others problem, that’s still technology that doesn’t work right out the box like it’s supposed to. I do think the fact that the new Edge is so good is going to eat into Google’s market. Exactly because of people like you and me who aren’t going to bother unless we have to.
- gxx 6y ago
  I'd like to switch to Edge but there is apparently no way to have it default to opening links in a new tab: https://www.tenforums.com/browsers-email/67169-can-i-make-open-new-tab-default-edge-favorite-bar-icon-links.html https://www.tenforums.com/browsers-email/67169-can-i-make-op... I know about Command-Click to open in a new tab (Mac) but I want thie to be the default. It's crazy that Edge does not support this because every other browser does. (If someone from Micthe Edge team happens to read this post, please fix it.)
52-6F-62 6y ago
I use Safari and Firefox nearly exclusively. There is the odd page I use chrome for due to compatibility issues, but for the most part I really prefer the former two. I, on a daily basis, have 4-7 Safari windows (work and new home-hunting) with tabs open all over the place as well as a Firefox full screen with another series of tabs (personal tasks). Never any problems.
gruez 6y ago
>Why do people jump to replace safari on their laptops, and even their iPhones (often with chrome)? totally unsupported conjecture: because to non-technical people, chrome is "the internet". It also didn't hurt that it was evangelized by many of their technical friends/family members/coworkers for being "the best", and that google bugged you to install it on many of their sites.
- toper-centage 6y ago
  For a long time it was a indeed the best in many regards. I've always been a Firefox fan and users, but for a while I had to admit that continuing with Firefox meant making big sacrifices. Today, those sacrifices are only the rare website that was never tested on anything but chrome or brings my 8 cores to a halt.
mc32 6y ago
Some add ons and plugins don’t work with Safari. Thus people are enticed to switch out of convenience.
robotnikman 6y ago
I think the fact that Google advertises the Chrome browser on all their major services plays a part in its adoption. Funny enough, when I sometimes go to the google search page in Firefox, a pop up appears saying I should switch to Chrome because it saves battery life

MikusR 6y ago

I just checked 6 laptops. None have Safari available. Also checked three smartphones - no Safari possible there also.

benbristow 6y ago
Were you by any chance looking at 6 non-Mac laptops and 3 non-iOS smartphones?
- DharmaPolice 6y ago
  I suspect that may have been their point.
falcolas 6y ago
The sentence reads just as well with 'Edge' in place of Safari, and they call out iPhones quite explicitly. The snark does not take the parent's comment in good faith.
- MikusR 6y ago
  Edge runs on Windows, Macos, Linux.
eznzt 6y ago
We get it, you are poor.
- biryani_chicken 6y ago
  Choosing the best alternative rather than the most expensive doesn't mean one is poor.

hesarenu 6y ago

Why bother changing in iOS devices. Its just a skin on safari engine. No choices there.

solarkraft 6y ago
Integration. Your history is synced, your bookmarks are synced, your passwords are synced, I think your tabs can be too.
- fred_is_fred 6y ago
  Firefox can do all this too if you really want, however, I absolutely do not want this - syncing between work persona (laptop) and home persona (phone).
  - sdwolfz 6y ago
    You can create a separate profile in Firefox by going to "about:profiles", desktop only (it looks ugly, and it's hard to use, I know, but it does work). This way you can have both personas on the same device without mixing them up. Too bad it does not work on mobile and the UX for it is so bad on desktop. It's a great feature that I wish Firefox invested in.

MattGaiser 6y ago

Mostly because I don't want to re-learn where buttons and settings are and how the dev tools work.

Timpy 6y ago
Firefox is my daily driver but I keep Chromium installed, sometimes I want FF dev tools and sometimes I want Chromium.

moksly 6y ago

I’m an avid safari user on iOS and Mac, and I suspect I’ll be an avid Edge user on Microsoft now that it’s basically a better chrome. I can see why people would want to switch it up. Especially if you use different operating systems, and want to synchronise your browser experience between them. Not having things synced has actually been a major advantage for me, as I use my phone and Mac very differently than I use my windows devices, but I can see why you wouldn’t want to run safari on Windows/Linux. Hell, these days I gotta say that I can see why you wouldn’t want to run Safari at all. It’s terrible at Disney plus, and others, and while that may be a Disney plus and others problem, that’s still technology that doesn’t work right out the box like it’s supposed to. I do think the fact that the new Edge is so good is going to eat into Google’s market. Exactly because of people like you and me who aren’t going to bother unless we have to.

gxx 6y ago
I'd like to switch to Edge but there is apparently no way to have it default to opening links in a new tab: https://www.tenforums.com/browsers-email/67169-can-i-make-open-new-tab-default-edge-favorite-bar-icon-links.html https://www.tenforums.com/browsers-email/67169-can-i-make-op... I know about Command-Click to open in a new tab (Mac) but I want thie to be the default. It's crazy that Edge does not support this because every other browser does. (If someone from Micthe Edge team happens to read this post, please fix it.)

52-6F-62 6y ago

I use Safari and Firefox nearly exclusively. There is the odd page I use chrome for due to compatibility issues, but for the most part I really prefer the former two. I, on a daily basis, have 4-7 Safari windows (work and new home-hunting) with tabs open all over the place as well as a Firefox full screen with another series of tabs (personal tasks). Never any problems.

gruez 6y ago

>Why do people jump to replace safari on their laptops, and even their iPhones (often with chrome)? totally unsupported conjecture: because to non-technical people, chrome is "the internet". It also didn't hurt that it was evangelized by many of their technical friends/family members/coworkers for being "the best", and that google bugged you to install it on many of their sites.

toper-centage 6y ago
For a long time it was a indeed the best in many regards. I've always been a Firefox fan and users, but for a while I had to admit that continuing with Firefox meant making big sacrifices. Today, those sacrifices are only the rare website that was never tested on anything but chrome or brings my 8 cores to a halt.

mc32 6y ago

Some add ons and plugins don’t work with Safari. Thus people are enticed to switch out of convenience.

robotnikman 6y ago

I think the fact that Google advertises the Chrome browser on all their major services plays a part in its adoption. Funny enough, when I sometimes go to the google search page in Firefox, a pop up appears saying I should switch to Chrome because it saves battery life