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Colibri: A Browser Without Tabs

23 points by fbelzile 6y ago

bovermyer 6y ago
I have many questions about this. 1. Is it Chromium-based? 2. I see that it references storing links "on the server." Does that mean it doesn't store this data locally, or have the option to do so? 3. What is OPQR and where is it based out of?
NikolaeVarius 6y ago
But why?
- enjoyyourlife 6y ago
  For you to give them your email address
dgrin91 6y ago
This seems incredibly dumb? I feel like I'm missing something obvious. A common behavior I have is to google something and then open 5 separate results as separate tabs. How would I do that here? At the bare minimum this landing page needs a lot of work. I come away from it feeling like this is some out of season april fools joke about moving browsers back into the 90s. Edit: Looking at some of the linked articles its been around since at least 2016... almost 5 years, probably more. This is all they have to show?
- poisonarena 6y ago
  dont worry bout it, just give them your email address so you can use your new browser
burlesona 6y ago
Don't really like that it requires an email to download. Seems like it's not under active development either, since the last news was posted in 2018. Anyone know more about this? I downloaded it and played with it for a minute. Browser without tabs still opens things in new windows, and I don't see any better alternative to following multiple links, so there doesn't appear to be anything new here. Am I missing something?
- bovermyer 6y ago
  The Releases page has the most recent release in September of this year, but it definitely seems light on dev.
asdf_snar 6y ago
I don't understand how the images that are presented on the landing page relate to a browser. Where is the proposed alternative browsing interface? I don't see a URL, nor how to browse multiple websites simultaneously.
y7 6y ago
A browser that first wants your email address, and then sends your entire browsing history to its maker. No thanks. > Our servers automatically record certain information about how you use our Services (we refer to this information as “Log Data”), including both Account holders and non-Account holders. This Log Data may include information such as your computer‘s Internet Protocol (“IP”) address, browser type, browser version, the pages that you visit, the time and date of your visit, the time spent on those pages and other statistics. > We may use your personal information to contact you with newsletters, marketing or promotional materials and other information.
- shirakawasuna 6y ago
  Feels like a corporate op. Good marketing, pretty website, objectively worse software, and they spy on + sell your data. No real investment from their side other than marketing talent.
Santosh83 6y ago
An account seems mandatory to even download or use this browser, and that combined with what appears to be a lack of any compelling advantage above the existing mainstream browsers means it probably won't see much adoption. Even the site doesn't have a dedicated features page but simply a carousel that highlights "Links", "Lists" and "Feeds" with very little details, and apart from Feeds, the other two don't seem very interesting or unusual. Oh and lack of tabs is probably not a selling point for the vast majority of users. And no mention of whether it is open source.
breakfastduck 6y ago
Can't imagine a single use case for when I'd prefer a tabless browser. I also can't remember seeing literally anyone complain when browsers start adopting tabs, even though people complain about anything.
- zokier 6y ago
  > I also can't remember seeing literally anyone complain when browsers start adopting tabs, even though people complain about anything. Not complain per se, but people were commenting how tabs were a crutch for poor top level window management, and how their WM of choice had had tabs for ages. I'd say they aren't wrong about them being a crutch, but I guess crutches are useful at times.
  - freeone3000 6y ago
    Have WMs gottten any better at tab management? I know Windows added Sets recently, but I don't think adoption has been great. KDE and GNOME still don't. OSX has it against its entire paradigm.
    - jolmg 6y ago
      You'd specifically see it with tiling window managers like i3. I can put any container node of the window tree in tabbed, stacked, tiled horizontal or tiled vertical mode. So, I can have tabs of any mix of programs, I can change the mode to see all tabs at the same time, each tab can have subtabs or windows organized in any way I see fit, I can fullscreen any level, etc. The handling of those tabs also fit with the rest of the window management, like putting marks on a container so new windows appear at whatever place in the window tree I wish (like having a shell to my left and all windows I'm invoking having them appear organized in an arbitrary manner in a window container to my right), etc. I can keep going, but if you're not familiar with tiling window managers, I feel like probably none of what I'm saying is making any sense...
      - freeone3000 6y ago
Shared404 6y ago
I would recommend trying 'surf' for those who want to try a browser without tabs, without also needing an email address/privacy violations that this one requires.
calo_star 6y ago
Is this a parody?
iKlsR 6y ago
I'd use something like this as one use case would be to just have profiles and logins isolated to sites I maintain. However, lost me at needing an account and wanting my entire browsing history wtf?. Also noticed today that Edge started offering vertical tabs that can collapse to favicon size.

23 points by fbelzile 6y ago

I have many questions about this. 1. Is it Chromium-based? 2. I see that it references storing links "on the server." Does that mean it doesn't store this data locally, or have the option to do so? 3. What is OPQR and where is it based out of?

NikolaeVarius 6y ago

But why?

enjoyyourlife 6y ago
For you to give them your email address

dgrin91 6y ago

This seems incredibly dumb? I feel like I'm missing something obvious. A common behavior I have is to google something and then open 5 separate results as separate tabs. How would I do that here? At the bare minimum this landing page needs a lot of work. I come away from it feeling like this is some out of season april fools joke about moving browsers back into the 90s. Edit: Looking at some of the linked articles its been around since at least 2016... almost 5 years, probably more. This is all they have to show?

poisonarena 6y ago
dont worry bout it, just give them your email address so you can use your new browser

burlesona 6y ago

Don't really like that it requires an email to download. Seems like it's not under active development either, since the last news was posted in 2018. Anyone know more about this? I downloaded it and played with it for a minute. Browser without tabs still opens things in new windows, and I don't see any better alternative to following multiple links, so there doesn't appear to be anything new here. Am I missing something?

bovermyer 6y ago
The Releases page has the most recent release in September of this year, but it definitely seems light on dev.

asdf_snar 6y ago

I don't understand how the images that are presented on the landing page relate to a browser. Where is the proposed alternative browsing interface? I don't see a URL, nor how to browse multiple websites simultaneously.

y7 6y ago

A browser that first wants your email address, and then sends your entire browsing history to its maker. No thanks. > Our servers automatically record certain information about how you use our Services (we refer to this information as “Log Data”), including both Account holders and non-Account holders. This Log Data may include information such as your computer‘s Internet Protocol (“IP”) address, browser type, browser version, the pages that you visit, the time and date of your visit, the time spent on those pages and other statistics. > We may use your personal information to contact you with newsletters, marketing or promotional materials and other information.

shirakawasuna 6y ago
Feels like a corporate op. Good marketing, pretty website, objectively worse software, and they spy on + sell your data. No real investment from their side other than marketing talent.

Santosh83 6y ago

An account seems mandatory to even download or use this browser, and that combined with what appears to be a lack of any compelling advantage above the existing mainstream browsers means it probably won't see much adoption. Even the site doesn't have a dedicated features page but simply a carousel that highlights "Links", "Lists" and "Feeds" with very little details, and apart from Feeds, the other two don't seem very interesting or unusual. Oh and lack of tabs is probably not a selling point for the vast majority of users. And no mention of whether it is open source.

breakfastduck 6y ago

Can't imagine a single use case for when I'd prefer a tabless browser. I also can't remember seeing literally anyone complain when browsers start adopting tabs, even though people complain about anything.

zokier 6y ago
> I also can't remember seeing literally anyone complain when browsers start adopting tabs, even though people complain about anything. Not complain per se, but people were commenting how tabs were a crutch for poor top level window management, and how their WM of choice had had tabs for ages. I'd say they aren't wrong about them being a crutch, but I guess crutches are useful at times.
- freeone3000 6y ago
  Have WMs gottten any better at tab management? I know Windows added Sets recently, but I don't think adoption has been great. KDE and GNOME still don't. OSX has it against its entire paradigm.
  - jolmg 6y ago
    You'd specifically see it with tiling window managers like i3. I can put any container node of the window tree in tabbed, stacked, tiled horizontal or tiled vertical mode. So, I can have tabs of any mix of programs, I can change the mode to see all tabs at the same time, each tab can have subtabs or windows organized in any way I see fit, I can fullscreen any level, etc. The handling of those tabs also fit with the rest of the window management, like putting marks on a container so new windows appear at whatever place in the window tree I wish (like having a shell to my left and all windows I'm invoking having them appear organized in an arbitrary manner in a window container to my right), etc. I can keep going, but if you're not familiar with tiling window managers, I feel like probably none of what I'm saying is making any sense...
    - freeone3000 6y ago

Shared404 6y ago

I would recommend trying 'surf' for those who want to try a browser without tabs, without also needing an email address/privacy violations that this one requires.

calo_star 6y ago

Is this a parody?

iKlsR 6y ago

I'd use something like this as one use case would be to just have profiles and logins isolated to sites I maintain. However, lost me at needing an account and wanting my entire browsing history wtf?. Also noticed today that Edge started offering vertical tabs that can collapse to favicon size.