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Gitlab is not immune to DMCA notices either since it's a US company. The RIAA probably won't try to take it down unless the youtube-dl development is actually r

by jdu9 6y ago

Gitlab is not immune to DMCA notices either since it's a US company. The RIAA probably won't try to take it down unless the youtube-dl development is actually relocated there or they become aware of it somehow. You'd have to host it in a country where DMCA can safely be ignored (anonymously of course), e.g. the Netherlands or Russia, if you want it to stay up reliably.

INTPenis 6y ago
So true. But to me as a long time Gitlab fan this shows the power of using Gitlab. Because if they were using Gitlab when the DMCA hits they could have easily migrated to their own Gitlab instance. While Github would have to export things into another format. I'm sure people have worked on exporting data from Github to Gitlab but it seems much easier to just use Gitlab. Edit: And of course besides data, you can't migrate contributors as easy. Which is also where Gitlab is powerful because it's open source and people are actually discussing federation in it. I doubt Github will ever get any kind of federation outside of microsoft services.
- qwertox 6y ago
  > could have easily migrated to their own Gitlab instance Not sure if I would do that. Wouldn't that make me directly a target for the companies issuing the DMCA?
  - corobo 6y ago
    You're already a direct target of the DMCA if you control the code. They go through GitHub for ease. Yes, if you host this anywhere without safe harbour protection you're going to get the DMCA takedown directly
  - INTPenis 6y ago
    You're always a target of DMCA takedown requests, but having the freedom to host yourself anywhere with federation to other instances would give you the freedom to ignore it.
input_sh 6y ago
Gitee.com is a popular Chinese alternative. I'm pretty sure it'd be safe there.
- stevefan1999 6y ago
  I don't think so. Youtube-DL can rip some popular Chinese VOD websites such as Bilibili and iQIYI, thus will first be "subjectable" to the Chinese equivalent of DMCA. Worse, these companies are often backed/protected by powerful figures (often under the umbrella of some influential state members) and under such power, these kind of "threats" will be eradicated very efficiently, especially with Bilibili which is partially "state-monitored" (not sure if sponsored) due to the presence of the channel of the official youth branch of CCP is opened there [1]. Thus, relocating your repository to gangs aren't safe at all. A rule of thumb: The prerequisite for your business to survive in China is that you need to have powerful affiliates, and make sure you do not piss off that powerful guy. [1]: https://space.bilibili.com/20165629?from=search&seid=12774176251470057946 https://space.bilibili.com/20165629?from=search&seid=1277417...
  - DarthGhandi 6y ago
    It's hilarious how people on this site reacts at the mere mention of China on any topic. Everyone is apparently an expert. Gitee has hosted a youtube-dl mirror for years. https://gitee.com/mirrors/youtube-dlg https://gitee.com/mirrors/youtube-dlg
    - justinclift 6y ago
      Um, that doesn't look like a youtube-dl mirror? It seems to be an old (last updated 2 yrs ago) project providing some kind of gui for youtube-dl.
    - stevefan1999 6y ago
      Hate to say about it but I'm ethically Chinese and I just happened to know some little thing about it...I know it's a great gambit so I hope I don't have to use the race card at the very least... Then people straight out attacking me thinking I'm attacking China...

by jdu9 6y ago

INTPenis 6y ago

So true. But to me as a long time Gitlab fan this shows the power of using Gitlab. Because if they were using Gitlab when the DMCA hits they could have easily migrated to their own Gitlab instance. While Github would have to export things into another format. I'm sure people have worked on exporting data from Github to Gitlab but it seems much easier to just use Gitlab. Edit: And of course besides data, you can't migrate contributors as easy. Which is also where Gitlab is powerful because it's open source and people are actually discussing federation in it. I doubt Github will ever get any kind of federation outside of microsoft services.

qwertox 6y ago
> could have easily migrated to their own Gitlab instance Not sure if I would do that. Wouldn't that make me directly a target for the companies issuing the DMCA?
- corobo 6y ago
  You're already a direct target of the DMCA if you control the code. They go through GitHub for ease. Yes, if you host this anywhere without safe harbour protection you're going to get the DMCA takedown directly
- INTPenis 6y ago
  You're always a target of DMCA takedown requests, but having the freedom to host yourself anywhere with federation to other instances would give you the freedom to ignore it.

input_sh 6y ago

Gitee.com is a popular Chinese alternative. I'm pretty sure it'd be safe there.

stevefan1999 6y ago
I don't think so. Youtube-DL can rip some popular Chinese VOD websites such as Bilibili and iQIYI, thus will first be "subjectable" to the Chinese equivalent of DMCA. Worse, these companies are often backed/protected by powerful figures (often under the umbrella of some influential state members) and under such power, these kind of "threats" will be eradicated very efficiently, especially with Bilibili which is partially "state-monitored" (not sure if sponsored) due to the presence of the channel of the official youth branch of CCP is opened there [1]. Thus, relocating your repository to gangs aren't safe at all. A rule of thumb: The prerequisite for your business to survive in China is that you need to have powerful affiliates, and make sure you do not piss off that powerful guy. [1]: https://space.bilibili.com/20165629?from=search&seid=12774176251470057946 https://space.bilibili.com/20165629?from=search&seid=1277417...
- DarthGhandi 6y ago
  It's hilarious how people on this site reacts at the mere mention of China on any topic. Everyone is apparently an expert. Gitee has hosted a youtube-dl mirror for years. https://gitee.com/mirrors/youtube-dlg https://gitee.com/mirrors/youtube-dlg
  - justinclift 6y ago
    Um, that doesn't look like a youtube-dl mirror? It seems to be an old (last updated 2 yrs ago) project providing some kind of gui for youtube-dl.
  - stevefan1999 6y ago
    Hate to say about it but I'm ethically Chinese and I just happened to know some little thing about it...I know it's a great gambit so I hope I don't have to use the race card at the very least... Then people straight out attacking me thinking I'm attacking China...