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Anecdotal, but I’ve spent a good chunk of money on quest apps and once they announced this change, I haven’t bought anything new and honestly it has been in a d

by ozten 6y ago

Anecdotal, but I’ve spent a good chunk of money on quest apps and once they announced this change, I haven’t bought anything new and honestly it has been in a drawer for 1 month. Prior I was using daily. Next non-oculus standalone headset has my money.

hashtagmarkup 6y ago
Facebook patent lawyers will make sure it never reaches market.
- ben_w 6y ago
  Other trillion dollar companies also have patents, patent lawyers, and interests in VR.
  - blfr 6y ago
    On the downside, they will also happily include bizarre requirements and censor content.
- saddlerustle 6y ago
  I don't think facebook has ever launched a patent infringement lawsuit, except as a countersuit.
  - hashtagmarkup 6y ago
    They sued German company StudiVZ (in US & German courts) for using a similar interface, but swapping the blue color scheme for red. I know Intellectual Property and Copyright lawsuits aren't the same as Patent lawsuits, but when you're arguing about human interfaces they might as well be.
discordance 6y ago
Waiting on the inevitable de-facebooked quest 2
jks 6y ago
How will you know the next headset doesn't get bought out by Facebook? I think my minimum requirement now would be a guarantee of all my money back if the company is acquired by Facebook.
- Buttons840 6y ago
  Am I the only one who thinks there will be a class action lawsuit over the Oculus requiring a Facebook login? The PS3 took away the ability to install Linux in an update and lost the resulting lawsuit, the Oculus isn't the same situation, but it's close enough that I think a lawsuit would have a good chance. It's one thing if they just required you to make a login, but it sounds like you cant "just make a login". You have to give them your name, there's a good chance you'll get banned if you name is unusual or if you don't immediately make "friends", etc, etc.
  - disgruntledphd2 6y ago
    The EU will 100% freak out in terms of anti-trust. This is textbook leveraging dominance in one market to get into another. The account is definitely not necessary to use the product, therefore it's not OK under GDPR. Germany has already said that this is not OK, so I expect this to happen pretty quickly.
- ryandrake 6y ago
  How do you know [any product you use] won't get bought by Facebook, resulting in users having to have Facebook accounts to use it? This is a risk we take in today's world. I could imagine a near future reality where I buy a monitor and then find I need to have a Facebook account in order for it to turn on, or a car that won't drive without logging in to Facebook. Or a refrigerator. Ten years ago these would seem totally ridiculous. Today, they are still silly but oddly believable.
corndoge 6y ago
Pico Neo? :P

by ozten 6y ago

hashtagmarkup 6y ago

Facebook patent lawyers will make sure it never reaches market.

ben_w 6y ago
Other trillion dollar companies also have patents, patent lawyers, and interests in VR.
- blfr 6y ago
  On the downside, they will also happily include bizarre requirements and censor content.
saddlerustle 6y ago
I don't think facebook has ever launched a patent infringement lawsuit, except as a countersuit.
- hashtagmarkup 6y ago
  They sued German company StudiVZ (in US & German courts) for using a similar interface, but swapping the blue color scheme for red. I know Intellectual Property and Copyright lawsuits aren't the same as Patent lawsuits, but when you're arguing about human interfaces they might as well be.

discordance 6y ago

Waiting on the inevitable de-facebooked quest 2

jks 6y ago

How will you know the next headset doesn't get bought out by Facebook? I think my minimum requirement now would be a guarantee of all my money back if the company is acquired by Facebook.

Buttons840 6y ago
Am I the only one who thinks there will be a class action lawsuit over the Oculus requiring a Facebook login? The PS3 took away the ability to install Linux in an update and lost the resulting lawsuit, the Oculus isn't the same situation, but it's close enough that I think a lawsuit would have a good chance. It's one thing if they just required you to make a login, but it sounds like you cant "just make a login". You have to give them your name, there's a good chance you'll get banned if you name is unusual or if you don't immediately make "friends", etc, etc.
- disgruntledphd2 6y ago
  The EU will 100% freak out in terms of anti-trust. This is textbook leveraging dominance in one market to get into another. The account is definitely not necessary to use the product, therefore it's not OK under GDPR. Germany has already said that this is not OK, so I expect this to happen pretty quickly.
ryandrake 6y ago
How do you know [any product you use] won't get bought by Facebook, resulting in users having to have Facebook accounts to use it? This is a risk we take in today's world. I could imagine a near future reality where I buy a monitor and then find I need to have a Facebook account in order for it to turn on, or a car that won't drive without logging in to Facebook. Or a refrigerator. Ten years ago these would seem totally ridiculous. Today, they are still silly but oddly believable.

corndoge 6y ago

Pico Neo? :P