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OldVersion.com software downloads for old versions of programs, drivers & games

229 points by gscott 6y ago

maltalex 6y ago
too bad the old versions of dropbox no longer work.
- kioleanu 6y ago
  Might make sense to invest into a something like Mountainduck - 35 EUR (or similar software), and get an agnostic sync client. The great advantage is you can change the backend (switch to another service) without having to learn how to use anew client
  - maltalex 6y ago
    Thanks for the suggestion, but Mountainduck doesn't seem to have a Linux version. Is there something similar for Linux?
    - InvaderFizz 6y ago
      If you are comfortable with CLI, rclone is the Swiss Army knife of cloud storage.
      - maltalex 6y ago
        rclone is great, but it doesn't have the same level of sync capabilities as Dropbox or Mountainduck (supposedly).
  - hartator 6y ago
    Interesting! Any luck with Backblaze B2 as a backend for Mountain Duck?
- FreakyT 6y ago
  Yeah, Dropbox has been on a steady downhill slope UX-wise. There is literally one reason to click the Dropbox icon, and that’s to pause/unpause syncing. Dropbox doesn’t need an elaborate UI, and I suspect the only reason it has one is for marketing reasons, not UX ones.
  - tomc1985 6y ago
    One of their PMs got a little nippy at me when I made a very similar complaint. Said they had to to survive... and I'm thinking, dude you guys should have never gone public, you could have kept a small, focused product Dropbox is still the only sync agent that can handle a large git repo without freaking out
  - nolok 6y ago
    Second reason is to see the last-synced list, to see if things got sent / are received / if something is stuck. So they put it behind a second submenu instead of front and center ...
- sn_master 6y ago
  huh, I've been using Dropbox since 2011 and almost never ever launch the UI. What parts of the Dropbox UI do you use? Even for uploads, you can know if its completed from the Windows Explorer.
oefrha 6y ago
Broken certs: curl: (60) SSL: no alternative certificate subject name matches target host name 'assets.oldversion.s3.amazonaws.com' That aside, an obvious problem with binary download sites like this is that you don't know if what you're getting is malicious. Hosting arbitrary binaries isn't cheap, so the economics of sites like this almost encourages shady behavior, not to mention the possibility of malicious users. Edit: I realize my broken certs problem must be caused by an extension (probably HTTPS Everywhere) here. Anyway, probably don't want to download binaries over unencrypted channels in 2020...
- maltalex 6y ago
  You could verify the binary by submitting it to virustotal.com
  - oefrha 6y ago
    Are SourceForge's adware/crapware installers flagged by AV software?
    - badsectoracula 6y ago
      Chances are they aren't since it has been years now that the site was sold to someone else who removed all the adware/crapware.
      - oefrha 6y ago
        I should have used the past sense. Were they flagged by AV software (for which VT is basically an aggregator) when they bundled adware/crapware?
        badsectoracula 6y ago
        Possibly. I just tried the official installer for JDownloader (which i know it includes adware) and it was flagged by several engines: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/6684894d334c9fd629c6586c342ca5ce04bc8b423772a52b95f42a1a73fbc848/detection https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/6684894d334c9fd629c6586c... So chances are it'd also flag SourceForge's stuff since it wasn't purpose-built malware but some sort of generic wrapper.
forgotmypw17 6y ago
I'm so grateful for this site, as a software historian of sorts. I've gotten countless versions of Opera, Netscape, and others off here. I appreciate them continuing to support HTTP, too. Many blessings, and a long future for you, oldversion.com Shameless plug: If you're looking for somewhere to go with that Opera 3.62 or Netscape 3.0 you just downloaded and opened with Wine, which runs them better than today's Windows, the site in my profile is compatible with both. :)
- oldversion 6y ago
  Thank you so much!
dingdingdang 6y ago
This reminds me of just how bad regular Linux apt repo ecosystem is at backwards compatibility, you always have latest edition or nothing in most cases. Trying to get C64 emulator running at moment and only latest version of VICE is supported by Debian/Ubuntu repo .. issue with disk images for me. Literally no other version to try unless I self compile which accordingly let me down the usual garden path of impossible lib reqs. So. Yeah. Hope some sort of static compile reality or NixOS comes around to save us all at some point. Loathe the advertising show Windows have become but neither do I enjoy the history-less reality of current mainstream Linux dists :/ edit: forgot to add that I've been using C64 emulators since late 90s ... accomplishing this emulation feat was not a problem 20+ years ago!
- easytiger 6y ago
  > Linux apt repo ecosystem is at backwards compatibility That's more an issue with the gnu/Linux userland progression than any package manager
  - a1369209993 6y ago
    There's problems with that too, but they're talking about the fact that (for example): $ apt-get install libfoo=0.1oldversion produces: E: Version '0.1oldversion' for 'libfoo' was not found as soon as version 0.2newpieceofshit of libfoo exists, thus completely defeating the purpose of specifying a version.
    - pantalaimon 6y ago
      Ubuntu dropped Qt4 from their repos, there is still plenty of third party software that uses that
- stjohnswarts 6y ago
  There's a really good reason for that, it would be almost impossible to handle all the dependencies, you would add an entire dimension (time) to the dependency tree and that is a lot of information to process for very limited returns. Most do maintain old release DVD/CD iso and that's about as good as you're going to get if some app you love makes major changes or is completely removed.
ta1234567890 6y ago
It would be great if they had iOS and iPhone firmware versions.
- thijsvandien 6y ago
  Useless when Apple won't activate them anymore.
  - skinnymuch 6y ago
    Can’t you have the blobs that would let you go back? I think only iOS 14 won’t let you go back. Not sure if you already need to be jail broken or not to allow this.
    - gruez 6y ago
      you mean shsh blobs? Didn't they turn obsolete years ago when they patched the firmware to require random nonces?
      - skinnymuch 6y ago
        Ah okay. The procedure now is to give your device info and get the shsh blob during the signing period. Perhaps that’s the way to get the random nonce you’re referring to? So that’s pretty limiting. Regardless, there was some talk of iOS 14 Not allowing downgrading. Not sure if that’s when jailbroken or in any way. ——- I still jailbreak myself. But don’t pay much attention to the scene. I think iPhone 5 is when the peak of jail breaking ended. That’s all the way back in 2012. And kept decreasing in popularity I install the same sort of tweaks for my own reasons I find very important and not much else. Important enough I’m going to go to stores this week and look for an iPhone 11 [Pro or whatever] that has 13.5 on it, so I can jailbreak again and keep my same iPhone 8 set up.
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maqp 6y ago
CVErsion.com would've also been a good domain name ;)
squarefoot 6y ago
Another similar site (sadly Windows only) is Last Freeware Version, which collects free versions of software before they're nuked by their developers when they make the software commercial. http://www.321download.com/LastFreeware/ http://www.321download.com/LastFreeware/
cable2600 6y ago
VetusWare https://vetusware.com/ https://vetusware.com/ has old DOS, Mac, *NIx versions of popular software but has a ratio to maintain for members. You have to create an account and the file is reviewed by others to see if it is a virus or crap or fake, etc.
- marttt 6y ago
  I am stuck in a Windows XP system for audio editing, and, indeed, you have Pro Tools 5.01 for me. Fascinating site that surely deserves a separate HN discussion. Many thanks! I think the React OS [1] people will love you as well. 1: http://www.reactos.org http://www.reactos.org
anthk 6y ago
Also telnet/ssh to vert.synchro.net, it has a HUGE software library for DOS/W31. If you need to upload/download something with zmodem, use qodem or syncterm.

229 points by gscott 6y ago

maltalex 6y ago

too bad the old versions of dropbox no longer work.

kioleanu 6y ago
Might make sense to invest into a something like Mountainduck - 35 EUR (or similar software), and get an agnostic sync client. The great advantage is you can change the backend (switch to another service) without having to learn how to use anew client
- maltalex 6y ago
  Thanks for the suggestion, but Mountainduck doesn't seem to have a Linux version. Is there something similar for Linux?
  - InvaderFizz 6y ago
    If you are comfortable with CLI, rclone is the Swiss Army knife of cloud storage.
    - maltalex 6y ago
      rclone is great, but it doesn't have the same level of sync capabilities as Dropbox or Mountainduck (supposedly).
- hartator 6y ago
  Interesting! Any luck with Backblaze B2 as a backend for Mountain Duck?
FreakyT 6y ago
Yeah, Dropbox has been on a steady downhill slope UX-wise. There is literally one reason to click the Dropbox icon, and that’s to pause/unpause syncing. Dropbox doesn’t need an elaborate UI, and I suspect the only reason it has one is for marketing reasons, not UX ones.
- tomc1985 6y ago
  One of their PMs got a little nippy at me when I made a very similar complaint. Said they had to to survive... and I'm thinking, dude you guys should have never gone public, you could have kept a small, focused product Dropbox is still the only sync agent that can handle a large git repo without freaking out
- nolok 6y ago
  Second reason is to see the last-synced list, to see if things got sent / are received / if something is stuck. So they put it behind a second submenu instead of front and center ...
sn_master 6y ago
huh, I've been using Dropbox since 2011 and almost never ever launch the UI. What parts of the Dropbox UI do you use? Even for uploads, you can know if its completed from the Windows Explorer.

oefrha 6y ago

Broken certs: curl: (60) SSL: no alternative certificate subject name matches target host name 'assets.oldversion.s3.amazonaws.com' That aside, an obvious problem with binary download sites like this is that you don't know if what you're getting is malicious. Hosting arbitrary binaries isn't cheap, so the economics of sites like this almost encourages shady behavior, not to mention the possibility of malicious users. Edit: I realize my broken certs problem must be caused by an extension (probably HTTPS Everywhere) here. Anyway, probably don't want to download binaries over unencrypted channels in 2020...

maltalex 6y ago
You could verify the binary by submitting it to virustotal.com
- oefrha 6y ago
  Are SourceForge's adware/crapware installers flagged by AV software?
  - badsectoracula 6y ago
    Chances are they aren't since it has been years now that the site was sold to someone else who removed all the adware/crapware.
    - oefrha 6y ago
      I should have used the past sense. Were they flagged by AV software (for which VT is basically an aggregator) when they bundled adware/crapware?
      - badsectoracula 6y ago
        Possibly. I just tried the official installer for JDownloader (which i know it includes adware) and it was flagged by several engines: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/6684894d334c9fd629c6586c342ca5ce04bc8b423772a52b95f42a1a73fbc848/detection https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/6684894d334c9fd629c6586c... So chances are it'd also flag SourceForge's stuff since it wasn't purpose-built malware but some sort of generic wrapper.

forgotmypw17 6y ago

I'm so grateful for this site, as a software historian of sorts. I've gotten countless versions of Opera, Netscape, and others off here. I appreciate them continuing to support HTTP, too. Many blessings, and a long future for you, oldversion.com Shameless plug: If you're looking for somewhere to go with that Opera 3.62 or Netscape 3.0 you just downloaded and opened with Wine, which runs them better than today's Windows, the site in my profile is compatible with both. :)

oldversion 6y ago
Thank you so much!

dingdingdang 6y ago

This reminds me of just how bad regular Linux apt repo ecosystem is at backwards compatibility, you always have latest edition or nothing in most cases. Trying to get C64 emulator running at moment and only latest version of VICE is supported by Debian/Ubuntu repo .. issue with disk images for me. Literally no other version to try unless I self compile which accordingly let me down the usual garden path of impossible lib reqs. So. Yeah. Hope some sort of static compile reality or NixOS comes around to save us all at some point. Loathe the advertising show Windows have become but neither do I enjoy the history-less reality of current mainstream Linux dists :/ edit: forgot to add that I've been using C64 emulators since late 90s ... accomplishing this emulation feat was not a problem 20+ years ago!

easytiger 6y ago
> Linux apt repo ecosystem is at backwards compatibility That's more an issue with the gnu/Linux userland progression than any package manager
- a1369209993 6y ago
  There's problems with that too, but they're talking about the fact that (for example): $ apt-get install libfoo=0.1oldversion produces: E: Version '0.1oldversion' for 'libfoo' was not found as soon as version 0.2newpieceofshit of libfoo exists, thus completely defeating the purpose of specifying a version.
  - pantalaimon 6y ago
    Ubuntu dropped Qt4 from their repos, there is still plenty of third party software that uses that
stjohnswarts 6y ago
There's a really good reason for that, it would be almost impossible to handle all the dependencies, you would add an entire dimension (time) to the dependency tree and that is a lot of information to process for very limited returns. Most do maintain old release DVD/CD iso and that's about as good as you're going to get if some app you love makes major changes or is completely removed.

ta1234567890 6y ago

It would be great if they had iOS and iPhone firmware versions.

thijsvandien 6y ago
Useless when Apple won't activate them anymore.
- skinnymuch 6y ago
  Can’t you have the blobs that would let you go back? I think only iOS 14 won’t let you go back. Not sure if you already need to be jail broken or not to allow this.
  - gruez 6y ago
    you mean shsh blobs? Didn't they turn obsolete years ago when they patched the firmware to require random nonces?
    - skinnymuch 6y ago
      Ah okay. The procedure now is to give your device info and get the shsh blob during the signing period. Perhaps that’s the way to get the random nonce you’re referring to? So that’s pretty limiting. Regardless, there was some talk of iOS 14 Not allowing downgrading. Not sure if that’s when jailbroken or in any way. ——- I still jailbreak myself. But don’t pay much attention to the scene. I think iPhone 5 is when the peak of jail breaking ended. That’s all the way back in 2012. And kept decreasing in popularity I install the same sort of tweaks for my own reasons I find very important and not much else. Important enough I’m going to go to stores this week and look for an iPhone 11 [Pro or whatever] that has 13.5 on it, so I can jailbreak again and keep my same iPhone 8 set up.
      - deleted 6y ago
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maqp 6y ago

CVErsion.com would've also been a good domain name ;)

squarefoot 6y ago

Another similar site (sadly Windows only) is Last Freeware Version, which collects free versions of software before they're nuked by their developers when they make the software commercial. http://www.321download.com/LastFreeware/ http://www.321download.com/LastFreeware/

cable2600 6y ago

VetusWare https://vetusware.com/ https://vetusware.com/ has old DOS, Mac, *NIx versions of popular software but has a ratio to maintain for members. You have to create an account and the file is reviewed by others to see if it is a virus or crap or fake, etc.

marttt 6y ago
I am stuck in a Windows XP system for audio editing, and, indeed, you have Pro Tools 5.01 for me. Fascinating site that surely deserves a separate HN discussion. Many thanks! I think the React OS [1] people will love you as well. 1: http://www.reactos.org http://www.reactos.org

anthk 6y ago

Also telnet/ssh to vert.synchro.net, it has a HUGE software library for DOS/W31. If you need to upload/download something with zmodem, use qodem or syncterm.