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A manager is doing it by hand. Their POS system has the ability to lock out individual items, and this information is available in real time to the server back

A manager is doing it by hand. Their POS system has the ability to lock out individual items, and this information is available in real time to the server backing the mobile app (GMA). The machines that I've seen don't have real-time telemetry, and are not networked.

joezydeco 6y ago
Good info, thank you! There was an old effort a long time ago where the machines were on a powerline-networking system (LONWorks) but that is dead and buried. The next-gen effort was ramping up a few years ago and I don't really know where it is now. The predictive analytics company they bought was a big part of it.
- chapium 6y ago
  Not sure if this is the same thing, but I recall reading a case study in 2006 on McD's cloudifying their kitchen equipment. The project was apparently a huge failure and was eventually stopped due to runaway costs.
  - joezydeco 6y ago
    Do you have a link to that anywhere? The 2006 timeframe does fit with the LONWorks effort. The McD implementation used....powerline networking. Man was that a kludge.
    - chapium 6y ago
      I don't sorry, but it was probably a HBR case study.
- imglorp 6y ago
  Meanwhile, Chick-fil-a is running Kubernetes at the edge for equipment, POS telemetry, and ML. https://medium.com/@cfatechblog/bare-metal-k8s-clustering-at-chick-fil-a-scale-7b0607bd3541 https://medium.com/@cfatechblog/bare-metal-k8s-clustering-at...
  - curryst 6y ago
    Their tech stack is far more bleeding edge than I would have envisioned. I wish they gave an idea of why they chose to use k8s at the edge. I can see how containers are useful for deployment, and the fail-over built into Kubernetes is really nice, but I'm shocked that's the simplest/best way to do it at the edge. I would have expected some VMWare product, just because it's "enterprisey". Shame on me for judging.
    - imglorp 6y ago
      Deployments and monitoring are probably another draw. Same tools server and edge side. Another project to keep an eye on is AWS's Greengrass which has a bunch of capability overlap, but a bunch of new ideas for edge and fog IoT also. I had a mixed experience with it but at least some ideas bear borrowing.

joezydeco 6y ago

Good info, thank you! There was an old effort a long time ago where the machines were on a powerline-networking system (LONWorks) but that is dead and buried. The next-gen effort was ramping up a few years ago and I don't really know where it is now. The predictive analytics company they bought was a big part of it.

chapium 6y ago
Not sure if this is the same thing, but I recall reading a case study in 2006 on McD's cloudifying their kitchen equipment. The project was apparently a huge failure and was eventually stopped due to runaway costs.
- joezydeco 6y ago
  Do you have a link to that anywhere? The 2006 timeframe does fit with the LONWorks effort. The McD implementation used....powerline networking. Man was that a kludge.
  - chapium 6y ago
    I don't sorry, but it was probably a HBR case study.
imglorp 6y ago
Meanwhile, Chick-fil-a is running Kubernetes at the edge for equipment, POS telemetry, and ML. https://medium.com/@cfatechblog/bare-metal-k8s-clustering-at-chick-fil-a-scale-7b0607bd3541 https://medium.com/@cfatechblog/bare-metal-k8s-clustering-at...
- curryst 6y ago
  Their tech stack is far more bleeding edge than I would have envisioned. I wish they gave an idea of why they chose to use k8s at the edge. I can see how containers are useful for deployment, and the fail-over built into Kubernetes is really nice, but I'm shocked that's the simplest/best way to do it at the edge. I would have expected some VMWare product, just because it's "enterprisey". Shame on me for judging.
  - imglorp 6y ago
    Deployments and monitoring are probably another draw. Same tools server and edge side. Another project to keep an eye on is AWS's Greengrass which has a bunch of capability overlap, but a bunch of new ideas for edge and fog IoT also. I had a mixed experience with it but at least some ideas bear borrowing.