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Uhh, famously, Sweden? Where have you been?

oefrha 6y ago
As I said, politicians asking people not to wear masks != no people wearing masks. And here's a Reuters report from two months ago saying mask sales soared, picturing at least one person wearing mask: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-sweden-facemasks/face-mask-sales-soar-as-swedes-eye-potential-guideline-change-idUSKBN25R22Q https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-sweden...
- ynfnehf 6y ago
  According to YouGov the latest numbers are 9% wearing masks when in public, it has become a bit higher lately (was 7% just a couple of weeks ago). But I think 9% is far too high. I very rarely encounter a mask while taking a walk in the city closest to where I live. Although that might be due to those wearing masks not being as active in public. https://today.yougov.com/topics/international/articles-reports/2020/03/17/personal-measures-taken-avoid-covid-19 https://today.yougov.com/topics/international/articles-repor...
  - netsharc 6y ago
    I'm pro mask, but I don't get wearing a mask if someone is just walking outside with no one around them. It's not like the whole world turned to Pripyat next to Chernobyl...
    - phobosanomaly 6y ago
      Sometimes I leave the mask on outside, even though it's a little ridiculous, because I find it awkward when someone does show up and you both do the 'put on the mask dance.' I hate the mask dance. It makes me feel really uncomfortable. So, I just leave it on. Sometimes I just forget too. I accidentally terrorized a young couple at Joshua Tree last weekend, because I didn't have my mask on, I was out climbing and in my 'happy place,' and I completely forgot there was a pandemic and just wandered right by them and waved and said 'hi.' It wasn't until later that evening that I realized why they were looking at me with wide-eyes and edging away from me. So, I wish I had just left the thing on in that case.
- treeman79 6y ago
  People forget that early on masks were almost impossible to get. And hospitals needed what few could be found. So telling people to wear what they couldn’t get was awkward.
belltaco 6y ago
A search shows 14% mask wearing in Sweden.
- hammock 6y ago
  Do you recommend 14% mask wearing in the US? What's the current rate in the US? Is there a big difference between the outcomes of 14% and whatever the rate is in the US?
- moogly 6y ago
  At least in Stockholm, where I live, 1.4% sounds high compared to my observations.
kenjackson 6y ago
Sweden is the best example, although not necessarily a model of success. https://time.com/5899432/sweden-coronovirus-disaster/ https://time.com/5899432/sweden-coronovirus-disaster/
freeflight 6y ago
Sweden, along with the other Scandinavian examples, are also way less densely populated, particularly compared to a place like NYC. There's also completely different base-levels for access to healthcare, different climates, a ton of factors besides masks. One might as well point at Asian countries like Taiwan, Vietnam or Korea. Those are densely populated countries were mask-use is wide-spread and generally considered to have done best in their response, with the numbers to back it up.

As I said, politicians asking people not to wear masks != no people wearing masks. And here's a Reuters report from two months ago saying mask sales soared, picturing at least one person wearing mask: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-sweden-facemasks/face-mask-sales-soar-as-swedes-eye-potential-guideline-change-idUSKBN25R22Q https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-sweden...

ynfnehf 6y ago
According to YouGov the latest numbers are 9% wearing masks when in public, it has become a bit higher lately (was 7% just a couple of weeks ago). But I think 9% is far too high. I very rarely encounter a mask while taking a walk in the city closest to where I live. Although that might be due to those wearing masks not being as active in public. https://today.yougov.com/topics/international/articles-reports/2020/03/17/personal-measures-taken-avoid-covid-19 https://today.yougov.com/topics/international/articles-repor...
- netsharc 6y ago
  I'm pro mask, but I don't get wearing a mask if someone is just walking outside with no one around them. It's not like the whole world turned to Pripyat next to Chernobyl...
  - phobosanomaly 6y ago
    Sometimes I leave the mask on outside, even though it's a little ridiculous, because I find it awkward when someone does show up and you both do the 'put on the mask dance.' I hate the mask dance. It makes me feel really uncomfortable. So, I just leave it on. Sometimes I just forget too. I accidentally terrorized a young couple at Joshua Tree last weekend, because I didn't have my mask on, I was out climbing and in my 'happy place,' and I completely forgot there was a pandemic and just wandered right by them and waved and said 'hi.' It wasn't until later that evening that I realized why they were looking at me with wide-eyes and edging away from me. So, I wish I had just left the thing on in that case.
treeman79 6y ago
People forget that early on masks were almost impossible to get. And hospitals needed what few could be found. So telling people to wear what they couldn’t get was awkward.

belltaco 6y ago

A search shows 14% mask wearing in Sweden.

hammock 6y ago
Do you recommend 14% mask wearing in the US? What's the current rate in the US? Is there a big difference between the outcomes of 14% and whatever the rate is in the US?
moogly 6y ago
At least in Stockholm, where I live, 1.4% sounds high compared to my observations.

kenjackson 6y ago

Sweden is the best example, although not necessarily a model of success. https://time.com/5899432/sweden-coronovirus-disaster/ https://time.com/5899432/sweden-coronovirus-disaster/

freeflight 6y ago

Sweden, along with the other Scandinavian examples, are also way less densely populated, particularly compared to a place like NYC. There's also completely different base-levels for access to healthcare, different climates, a ton of factors besides masks. One might as well point at Asian countries like Taiwan, Vietnam or Korea. Those are densely populated countries were mask-use is wide-spread and generally considered to have done best in their response, with the numbers to back it up.