3 ms·

Also, I had a brief look over the paper but couldn't find anything to control for isolation since lockdown .. surely this would of had an effect on peoples cogn

by xd 6y ago

Also, I had a brief look over the paper but couldn't find anything to control for isolation since lockdown .. surely this would of had an effect on peoples cognition. On a side note, maybe it's just me but I keep seeing comments that don't follow a "politically" accepted view point, being down vote like yours.

w_t_payne 6y ago
Maybe it's because this whole situation has been ridiculously politicized, to the point where it's difficult to have a rational fact-based discussion.
- hejja 6y ago
  ...about anything. not just covid.
  - EForEndeavour 6y ago
    That's exactly what someone with your political beliefs would say!!
deleted 6y ago
[deleted]
jmull 6y ago
I don't know why people downvote things, but in this case I would hope it's because the previous comment was pretty superficial. Whether the covid causes cognitive decline through causing the use of a ventilator, sedatives, and immobilization or through some other mechanism still means it causes cognitive decline. So there's a basic logic flaw. Also, quite a large number of people have been put on ventilators due to covid-19, not "almost nobody". That's just an incorrect assertion. You'd like to attribute the downvoting to politics, but given the quality issues, I think that's a hard claim to support.
api 6y ago
If isolation with a net connection for a few months dropped multiple IQ points, then all the shut-ins who do nothing but hang around on the Internet all day would be losing multiple tens of IQ points a year and would be functionally disabled by now.
- webmaven 6y ago
  > If isolation with a net connection for a few months dropped multiple IQ points, then all the shut-ins who do nothing but hang around on the Internet all day would be losing multiple tens of IQ points a year and would be functionally disabled by now. You're assuming the effect is both permanent and cumulative. An analogous effect: Clinical depression is also known to lower IQ in a subset of sufferers (for some oddballs, it's actually their main symptom). But the effect is neither permanent, nor cumulative. When the depression lifts, so does IQ (usually with a bit of delay). So I would surmise that the same may be true of IQ deficits caused by prolonged isolation.

by xd 6y ago

w_t_payne 6y ago

Maybe it's because this whole situation has been ridiculously politicized, to the point where it's difficult to have a rational fact-based discussion.

hejja 6y ago
...about anything. not just covid.
- EForEndeavour 6y ago
  That's exactly what someone with your political beliefs would say!!

deleted 6y ago

[deleted]

jmull 6y ago

I don't know why people downvote things, but in this case I would hope it's because the previous comment was pretty superficial. Whether the covid causes cognitive decline through causing the use of a ventilator, sedatives, and immobilization or through some other mechanism still means it causes cognitive decline. So there's a basic logic flaw. Also, quite a large number of people have been put on ventilators due to covid-19, not "almost nobody". That's just an incorrect assertion. You'd like to attribute the downvoting to politics, but given the quality issues, I think that's a hard claim to support.

api 6y ago

If isolation with a net connection for a few months dropped multiple IQ points, then all the shut-ins who do nothing but hang around on the Internet all day would be losing multiple tens of IQ points a year and would be functionally disabled by now.

webmaven 6y ago
> If isolation with a net connection for a few months dropped multiple IQ points, then all the shut-ins who do nothing but hang around on the Internet all day would be losing multiple tens of IQ points a year and would be functionally disabled by now. You're assuming the effect is both permanent and cumulative. An analogous effect: Clinical depression is also known to lower IQ in a subset of sufferers (for some oddballs, it's actually their main symptom). But the effect is neither permanent, nor cumulative. When the depression lifts, so does IQ (usually with a bit of delay). So I would surmise that the same may be true of IQ deficits caused by prolonged isolation.