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There is clearly an effort to present this story as "debunked" or "false" or "fabricated." The CBS link, as I said, doesn't show anything to be fabricated and i

There is clearly an effort to present this story as "debunked" or "false" or "fabricated." The CBS link, as I said, doesn't show anything to be fabricated and is merely a bunch of ad hominem attacks. Debunking things before investigating them is not good journalism. Period. As I said in the initial comment, the NY Post is not a reputable paper and the story itself seems strange and fake, but guess what? That doesn't matter. The evidence for the story, at this point, seems at least plausible, plausible enough to investigate it. If it's fake, Murdoch and the NY Post will have a massive libel suit to pay for. That's how the legal system works.

zimpenfish 6y ago
> Debunking things before investigating them is not good journalism. The NYP doesn't appear to have investigated them though. And they don't seem keen on providing access for other people to investigate the authenticity - as people have pointed out, it would be trivial to prove the email authenticity given the DKIM headers. Yet they remain stubbornly absent from the story, no? > The evidence for the story, at this point, seems at least plausible It doesn't even pass a simple smell test - who drives cross-country to drop off their laptop at a cheap repair shop and then doesn't pick it up? Another smell test - you have a bunch of emails that you could trivially prove are authentic but for some reason you're avoiding doing that.
- cik2e 6y ago
  The Bidens are from Delaware. Plenty of reason for Hunter to have been there.
  - zimpenfish 6y ago
    Sure but again - why would he use a tiny repair shop on the other side of the country when he lives in Los Angeles? I'm originally from the North West UK but live in London and I take my Macs to the London Apple stores when they need fixing, not John Q Northerner's Chop Shop when I'm visiting family.
    - Supermancho 6y ago
      Plausibly, because he was having it worked on (maybe to give to a family or friend) then just found/decided that he didn't want to bother with it. People will decide that computer problems are immediate and inconsequential at the drop of a hat, if you've ever worked on them.
      - zimpenfish 6y ago
        I don't know many people who would just go "eh, forget it" for a Macbook at an anonymous repair shop whilst it was still laden with emails and photographs and other personal content. Even if he can shrug off the cost of the laptop itself, I'm reasonably sure that Hunter Biden - long the target of the GOP ire, remember - or at least a lackey would have been back to that shop about 30 seconds after someone realised what had happened.
        sawjet 6y ago
        Assuming Hunter was happy with being the family punching bag. The messages released so far can be interpreted that he resented being the pity party of the biden namesake.
        zimpenfish 6y ago
        Ok, he resented being the pity party and instead of finding a sympathetic reporter to give some anonymous background or quotes to, he goes cross-country, leaves a laptop in a tiny repair shop, and crosses his fingers that it somehow comes out without making him look like a dick? I mean, this is sillier than the current explanation.

zimpenfish 6y ago

> Debunking things before investigating them is not good journalism. The NYP doesn't appear to have investigated them though. And they don't seem keen on providing access for other people to investigate the authenticity - as people have pointed out, it would be trivial to prove the email authenticity given the DKIM headers. Yet they remain stubbornly absent from the story, no? > The evidence for the story, at this point, seems at least plausible It doesn't even pass a simple smell test - who drives cross-country to drop off their laptop at a cheap repair shop and then doesn't pick it up? Another smell test - you have a bunch of emails that you could trivially prove are authentic but for some reason you're avoiding doing that.

cik2e 6y ago
The Bidens are from Delaware. Plenty of reason for Hunter to have been there.
- zimpenfish 6y ago
  Sure but again - why would he use a tiny repair shop on the other side of the country when he lives in Los Angeles? I'm originally from the North West UK but live in London and I take my Macs to the London Apple stores when they need fixing, not John Q Northerner's Chop Shop when I'm visiting family.
  - Supermancho 6y ago
    Plausibly, because he was having it worked on (maybe to give to a family or friend) then just found/decided that he didn't want to bother with it. People will decide that computer problems are immediate and inconsequential at the drop of a hat, if you've ever worked on them.
    - zimpenfish 6y ago
      I don't know many people who would just go "eh, forget it" for a Macbook at an anonymous repair shop whilst it was still laden with emails and photographs and other personal content. Even if he can shrug off the cost of the laptop itself, I'm reasonably sure that Hunter Biden - long the target of the GOP ire, remember - or at least a lackey would have been back to that shop about 30 seconds after someone realised what had happened.
      - sawjet 6y ago
        Assuming Hunter was happy with being the family punching bag. The messages released so far can be interpreted that he resented being the pity party of the biden namesake.
        zimpenfish 6y ago
        Ok, he resented being the pity party and instead of finding a sympathetic reporter to give some anonymous background or quotes to, he goes cross-country, leaves a laptop in a tiny repair shop, and crosses his fingers that it somehow comes out without making him look like a dick? I mean, this is sillier than the current explanation.